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« on: May 31, 2012, 05:36:00 pm »
That's funny ... For BWE/BGE: Podróżnym zamierzającym skorzystać z przejazdu pociągami BWE lub BGE, sprzedaje się bilety:
na PKP:
- wg oferty „Berlin-Warszawa/Gdynia-Express”,
- na przewóz roweru – tylko w pociągach “Berlin-Warszawa-Express”,
- wg oferty specjalnej “Berlin-Warszawa/Gdynia-Specjal.”,
na DB:
- wg opłat NRT,
- na przewóz roweru – tylko w pociągach “Berlin-Warszawa-Express”,
- wg oferty specjalnej “Europa-Spezial Polen”.
That means if I buy the ticket at PKP i pay according to "Berlin-Warszawa/Gdynia-Express" price, whereas by doing so with DB i pay the NRT !! Same for the EN 'Jan Kiepura' (NRT at DB, 'Jan Kiepura' tariff with NS or PKP). Moreover... (for BWE/BGE, but not for Kiepura) jeśli z biletem na przejazd (np. z opłatą NRT, lub z innym, np.: InterRail, Eurail Germany–Poland Pass) wystawiany
jest jednocześnie dokument rezerwacyjny odpowiednio na pociąg BWE lub BGE, to opłata za zarezerwowanie
miejsca do siedzenia wynosi „0,00” €. ...which means if I buy the NRT ticket for this train with DB I get the reservation free of charge (as long as I buy it at the same moment as the ticket [even interrail/eurail !!]). Nice to know, but unfortunately one needs to know many specific rules instead of a common standard one...
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« on: May 30, 2012, 08:52:10 pm »
What does the "GLOBAL PRICE" really mean ??
Is it better or worse than non-global-priced train?
I'd like to find a definite answer for that ...
As far as I understand it means that it is possible to get an extra price, that is cheaper that it would result from the standard fare (internal/international), but it does not prevent me from boarding this train with an ordinary ticket (+ reservation if necessary).
Thanks :-)
Filip.
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« on: April 30, 2012, 03:44:01 pm »
Hello,
I'm interested in the reimbursement rules for international tickets in case of late arrival / missing connection.
(any external documents appreciated as well)
Are they the same for all the CIV participating countries (in case of international ticket)?
Do they / How much do they reimburse in case of late arrival (depending on the latency time)? For a long trip with a few changes, I can imagine that being late in the end is something very probable... (I guess there may be a difference here between connection-bonded and standard 'open' SCIC-NRT tickets)
In case if an overnight stay is required because of the missed connection, can I simply get an accommodation and be sure I'll get the money back?
In case if I loose a daily connection and need to travel with an overnight train, will I get a couchette reimbursement? (either if the train is sleepers-only or if I take it just for my comfort)
In case if I miss my connection and the alternative train does not follow the same route, should I buy a new ticket for a separate branch (and get reimbursed later) or can I simply board the other train?
Can I handle the demand to any of the participating railways?
Best regards,
Filip.
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« on: February 13, 2012, 11:13:24 am »
Ok we've just come back from our trip :-)
Let me list some remarks:
Zagreb-Sarajevo:
Both available international ticket salesmen in Zagreb said the RAILPLUS is not valid in Bosnia. The same confirmed later at the international ticket counters in Sarajevo and Mostar. Thus, Zagreb-Sarajevo one way was 231 HRK.
Mostar-Osijek: (overnight stay in Osijek).
Ticket officer in Mostar refused to sell a ticket to Osijek, saying he can do it only for a direct train (strange). Thus, I bought one to Strizivojna-Vrpolje for 47.90 BAM, then a domestic putnicki to Osijek, 29.20 HRK.
Osijek-Pecs:
International ticket office in Osijek is closed on weekends so we were issued only local putnicki to Beli Manastir (20.20 HRK). In Beli Manastir the Railplus discount was again not available due to the fixed-price (ca 44 hrk) Edmonson ticket (!!!) to Pecs. (The one I haven't seen for years. I saw the ticket officer had a large panel full of them).
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« on: February 02, 2012, 10:23:17 am »
Got the reply from DB :-) Unfortunately the Europa-Spezial stopover restrictions are not the same like the ones from the TCV standard fare. With the Europa-Spezial you have to cross the border of Germany with the booked train, behind the border you can travel like you want and can make 2 stopovers, but you have to arrive your destination until the 5th February 2012 3:00 a.m. (morning). My ticket validity starts on 3rd Februarry (However the first train I take at 22:04). Thus the ticket seems to be valid for 2 days + 3 hours after midnight :-) This '3am' is pretty common for DB, allowing to finish the journey with late evening trains.
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« on: January 31, 2012, 01:03:30 pm »
Did you have Spar ticket or normalpreis Sprarpres of course. I know the rules with the standard tickets :-) I'll email db and see what the say.
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« on: January 30, 2012, 06:40:30 pm »
Mhmmm, I've just found that, quite detailed info about db tariffs and tickets, seems like Zugbindung for Europa-Specials is obligatory only in Germany, however it's not an official source... : http://www.janzbikowski.de/blog/haufige-bahnfragen/#frueherWie funktioniert das mit der Zugbindung?
Fahrkarten zu den Sparpreisen gelten auf den Fernverkehrsabschnitten (IC, EC, ICE, TGV) nur für den gebuchten Zug, der auf der Fahrkarte angegeben ist. Dasselbe gilt für Europa-Spezial-Tickets auf dem deutschen Streckenabschnitt.
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« on: January 30, 2012, 11:14:07 am »
I'm wondering...
At my online Europa-Special ticket (it's Europa-Kroatien specifically) for Offenburg-Zagreb, it's written (A loose translation from German):
"DB: Valid only for the specific trains on the specific days."
Then at the 'VIA' section of the ticket the train numbers and departures of trains are specified, but only for the German part. I mean I need to take IC/ICE trains in Offenburg, Heidelberg, Munich and Villach. The first 3 departures (train numbers) are clearly specified in the VIA section, but the one in Villach is not (There is only standard 'via' ...Salzburg*Villach* Jesenice...). However this change is required and it's marked on my timetable under the ticket. Moreover, the small print above ticket says it is valid for one month as typical TCV ...
Thus, as in Subject :-)
0. Am I allowed to make stopovers once I leave Germany?
Then, if the answer is yes... :-)
1. Is there any official info about it to print-out and show just in case of problems?
2. The 'VIA' section specifies a departure from Munich. Do I need to use this train until Villach or can I make a stopover even immediately after crossing the DB/OBB border?
3. As at the usual DB online ticket, I have my timetable written below. Will it not make any trouble if I use different trains? (I mean already outside DB). This timetable wouldn't be there if I had bought the ticket not online but at the desk and I'm pretty sure it's just an information, not an obligation (One may buy a Lander-Ticket this way and have anything printed there, yet the ticket will be valid all around the land the whole day)
PS. I've done that once in Slovenia, in Ljubljana I was waiting for my EC to Munich but there was a local train leaving to Jesenice one hour in advance and I've decided to see this small town before. I've just asked the ticket inspector before entering the train if I can travel to Jesenice and wait there or do I need to stay here. He looked at the ticket briefly and said sure no problem. Yet I don't know if he did it according to the rules or he did not know them / didn't care :-)
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« on: January 26, 2012, 09:54:31 am »
I'm >26 so I wouldn't count on that :-)
However, if the things are this way, maybe it's cheaper to buy a direct Zagreb-Ploce ticket and then Ploce-Sarajevo (both tickets one way) instead of getting Zagreb-Sarajevo one way then Sarajevo-Ploce return? [later we will leave BiH via Pecs/Budapest] cannot find Zagreb-Ploce price to compare...
And as far as I understand all the tickets here are not any "specials" so stops are allowed on route.
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« on: January 21, 2012, 11:25:30 am »
Hello, one more question regarding the subject :-)
I know than the domestic tariff is usually cheaper than the international one. Thus still a small question regarding two routes of my forthcoming trip once again :-)
1.
Zagreb - Sarajevo
In Zagreb I coul buy domestic+brzi supplement 57.70 HRK (8 eur) Zagreb-Volinja then Inetrnational+railplus Volinja Sarajevo
Standard TCV+railplus tariff is 30.50 eur for Zagreb-Sarajevo and 23.30 eur for Volinja-Sarajevo so the Zagreb-Volinja part costs 7.2 eur EVEN WITHOUT 20% (or similar) HZ-ZFBH/ZRS discount You've mentioned.
Thus, it's cheaper to buy the international ticket Zagreb-Sarajevo at once.
Right? :-)
2.
Sarajevo - Pecs
In Sarajevo I can buy domestic to Bosanski Samac then international Bosanski Samac-Pecs. The price Sarajevo-Samac is not shown, but I can assume it's less than to Sarajevo-Banja Luka (shorter distance and entity crossing) thus it's below 25.70 bam (less than 13.20 eur). Then from jizdenka Samac-Pecs with railplus is 13.70 eur.
Sarajevo-Pecs from zfbh website is 64.50 bam / 33.20 eur standard so should be 24.90 with railplus.
Thus it's again a bit cheaper or around the same price to buy a direct ticket.
As a conclusion :-) Seems like in those two cases it's cheaper to buy international ones only because of my railplus card :-) If I didn't have it, it would be better to get the combined offer.
Please correct me if I'm wrong :-)
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« on: January 06, 2012, 07:02:47 pm »
Just one more question :-)
Are the MAV machine-picked-up tickets personalized?
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« on: December 14, 2011, 11:56:11 pm »
I've just bought both aforementioned spars + the Budapest-Katowice (well, technically Warsaw) for 29 eur :-) !! SURPRISE !! NO PROBLEMS WITH THE MAV TICKETING SYSTEM AT ALL !! Seems they've something changed since the summer. Obviously, the ticket number arrives by email, and it needs to be typed in any of their machines then picked up, but it's not a problem for me in this case. Well, here RailPlus discount doesn't contradict regular discount HZ-ZFBH, so it's not about this or that discount to choose, they just sum up. So while asking for the ticket Zagreb-Sarajevo and showing my railplus, the cashier will just sum up both discounts? We have trouble grasping your correlation to jiizdenka, can you explain your point with precise numbers? ZFBH-HZ it's 20% off, while RailPlus -25% (+ see the above point) Ok, I just did not know they would sum up. Thus, I can see the best way is to get those three: 1. Zagreb-Sarajevo 2. Sarajevo-Ploce-Sarajevo (add. return discount) 3. Sarajevo-Budapest (if we're lucky with plans, we may also stop in Doboj, Djakovo and/or Pecs. That would help alot with the price again) Many thanks !!
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« on: December 14, 2011, 10:08:26 am »
Hey, once again.
I've found great sparpreises so I'm thinking if that can be cheaper than interrail... However a bit risky :-)
Thus I will additionally need couple of one way tickets (one person, >26, railplus; my girlfriend most probably will have to stick to interrail anyway)...
As far as I can see the railplus card always gives me more discount than any local agreements...
Kehl-Zagreb [I've found 29 eur sparpreis (with bahncard)]
Zagreb - Sarajevo (-Ploce?) /direct night train/
--->Railplus seems to be best option. And again, extending ticket to Mostar or Ploce will make it cheaper?
Sarajevo-Ploce-Sarajevo (with longer stay in Mostar)
---> If ZFBH website doesn't lie, then ZFBH-HZ return discount pays off more than railplus, which is contrary to what jizdenka says... But it's still all about around one euro. Breaking this ticket in Mostar can save a bit also but i think it does not really make a large difference.
Sarajevo-Budapest
--->Again railplus seems to be the only option (direct train with quasi-longer stops only in Doboj and Pecs)
Budapest-Bohumin-[Zebrzydowice(gr)]
--->Again the same question. Ticket breaks maybe? We'd like to go straight with the overnight train... I remember there were some discounts for one way trip as well here...
Zebrzydowice(Gr)-Katowice [then onwards]
[I have PhD Polish ID so I also get 51% discount in Poland, that's pretty straightforward for me. Those tickets my girlfriend will buy in Poland even before departure (the date is fixed) so no hassle with border crossing here]
Goerlitz-Kehl (found sparpreis for 43 eur with bahncard)
Seems to me a bit more than 200 instead of 270. The only risk is losing 30 eur by canceling the sparpreises :-)
Any ideas above aforementioned combining or breaking tickets will be very appreciated :-)
Thanks in advance and again sorry for asking so many questions :-)
Filip.
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« on: December 12, 2011, 02:47:47 pm »
It's clear now, thanks :-) You definitely can purchase r/t Sturovo-Budapest ticket in Bohumin (or even in Poland) for 12.4 EUR.
Even the <26 version? Can I also buy the Citystar Bohumin-Sturovo in Poland to avoid waking up in Bohumin at all?
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