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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: February 09, 2010, 02:48:29 pm »
The problem with going Krakow-Prague-Salzburg-Prague-Breclav-Budapest with a ticket Krakow-Budapest and additional "side" trip tickets Bohumin-Prague, Prague-Salzburg-Prague, Prague-Breclav is the fact that Krakow-Budapest one way ticket costs 75 euro, while return only 90 euro (there are special return discount). So in case you plan to come back by train from Budapest to Krakow, then it worth buying return ticket for 90 euro, but in case you will use Krakow-Budapest one way, then the total sum will be: Krakow-Budapest (75 euro+sleeper); Bohumin-Prague (433 CZK); Prague-Salzburg-Prague (2*19 euro); Prague-Breclav (375 CZK)=app. 145euro for the whole trip.
On the contrary straight forward tickets for the route Krakow-Prague-Salzburg-Budapest will cost you app. 36 euro(Krakow-Prague)+19 euro (Prague-Salzburg)+39 euro(Salzburg-Budapest)=app.95 euro + by such route you'll save time by not coming back to Prague from Salzburg and going straight to Budapest.
To conclude: in case you plan to fly from Hungary to Poland, then go straight without any side trips, if you plan to go back by train - then it's worth to purchase 90 euro return ticket Krakow-Budapest and use side trips tickets.

Option by train from Budapest to Olsztyn will take app. 18 hours in case you use overnight train from Budapest to Poland. During daytime it is possible to manage in app.15 hours. In both case two changes are required. Both variants aren't via Krakow, but directly - via Katowice-Warszawa.

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: prague,krakov,bratislva,Budapest
« on: February 08, 2010, 05:45:14 pm »
It is quite important whether starting point will be Vienna or Frankfurt(M), as well as the info about preferred final destination.
As of now, we can see a number of options:
1) Frankfurt-Prague starts from 29 euro (purchased in advance on DB website), Prague-Vienna (from 19 euro - https://eshop.cd.cz/search.aspx?lang=E), Vienna-Budapest (from 19 euro, purchased in advance from OEBB website), Budapest-Bratislava - 12 euro (purchased any time). Bratislava-Krakow (app.40-45 euro, depending on route you take, purchased any time). Final destination Krakow. Total=from 120-125euro per person
2) Vienna-Budapest (from 19 euro, purchased in advance from OEBB website), Budapest-Bratislava - 12 euro (purchased any time); Bratislava-Praha (23 euro one way, purchased any time), Praha-Katowice (from 19 euro, Czech railways eShop), Katowice-Krakow domestic Polish ticket (from 15 PLN). Final destination Krakow. Total=from 77euro per person
3) Frankfurt-Krakow starts from 39 euro (purchased in advance on DB website), Krakow-Budapest (starts from 25 euro, purchased in advance at the station), Budapest-Bratislava - 12 euro (purchased any time); Bratislava-Vienna-Bratislava (11 euro, return ticket purchased any time), Bratislava-Praha (23 euro one way, purchased any time). Final destination Prague. Total=from 110 euro per person
etc.
There are many other variants (including "less tickets purchased in advance" etc.), so you will probably need to state your exact preferences here.
The only thing it is possible to say is that start from Vienna will be cheaper than from Frankfurt, but here we do not take into consideration your flight options - maybe it is cheaper for you to fly into Frankfurt instead of Vienna thus the difference will be eliminated etc.

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: February 08, 2010, 10:05:02 am »
Well, it's your choice whether to fly or not. We can just conclude that it is rather hard task to fly cheap from Hungary to Poland - no direct low-cost airlines, but you can manage it anyway with a change or direct regular airline - just make sure you've checked all the offers.
Krakow-Prague by train - already described, Prague-Salzburg - as well. Doing Salzburg-Budapest by train isn't that cheap - from 39 euro (online and in advance from OEBB website)
 

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: January 26, 2010, 05:40:48 pm »
I tried to look for a train from Krakow to Olsztyn. It appeared that the travel time was 14 hours. Does that seem right?
It doesn't look like good connection. We already posted for you overnight variants above (9:50 and 11:40), daytime trips take from 6:16 to almost 8 hours -

As you can see, all of variants given by Polish Railway require at least one change.

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: January 20, 2010, 03:35:38 pm »
If you don't mind I may have a few more questions as we get closer to the trip.
Sure, we here to help other fellow travelers  ;)

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: January 20, 2010, 02:55:08 pm »
Ok, so your ticket Krakow-Budapest-Krakow will be issued via Zebrzydowice, Bohumin, Prerov, Breclav, Bratislava hl.st. (check location of those on the map - http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/map.php?file=maps/czechia/czechia.gif). And I would not advice you to get off the train in Bohumin. Simply purchase Bohumin-Praha ticket from CD eShop (link above) in advance and print it on your own, then purchase couchette or sleeper and when boarding overnight Krakow-Praha train simply show the conductor all three pieces (Krakow-Budapest ticket for the part Krakow-Bohumin and printed eTicket for Bohumin-Praha), in this case you don't even need to wake up at night ;) The train you need here is R 400 "Silesia" (departs Bohumin 2:10), it carries carriages from Krakow to Prague.
Same story with Prague-Budapest - you purchase eTicket Pragua-Breclav, sleeper or couchette Praha-Budapest and board overnight train to Budapest, for Breclav-Budapest part you have Krakow-Budapest ticket.
There are no direct overnight trains from Krakow to Olsztyn, but there are nice connections possible:
1) you board overnight train TLK35202 Zakopane-Gdynia in Krakow at 23:20 and get off the train in the morning at Iława Główna  7:52, at 8:05 there is regional train 30131 to Olsztyn (there at 9:10)
2) you board overnight train TLK35512 Krynica-Gdynia in Krakow at 00:09, then get off at Toruń Główny at 8:06. From Torun to Olsztyn there is InterRegio train IR 75133 at 8:39, in Olsztyn you are at 10:49


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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: January 19, 2010, 03:51:56 pm »
First thing which comes in mind to make a small trick:
Purchase Krakow-Budapest-Krakow return ticket for app.90 euro (can be bought any time), then board overnight train Krakow-Prague (part Krakow-Bohumin both connections Krakow-Prague and Krakow-Budapest are the same), so you'll show you Krakow-Budapest ticket till Bohumin and after simply buy Czech domestic ticket Bohumin on board from conductor or in advance here - https://eshop.cd.cz/search.aspx (costs 433 CZK), then do a side trip Prague-Salzburg-Prague using CD  eTickets, after get domestic Pragua-Breclav ticket (375 CZK) and board overnight Prague-Budapest train (from Breclav to Budapest you'll use rest of your Krakow-Budapest ticket). In case you don't plan to stop in Vienna, then just board Budapest-Krakow train and use your return ticket. If you want to see Vienna, then simply make a stop in Bratislava and get Bratislava-Vienna return ticket for 11 euro, after come back to Bratislava and board same Budapest-Krakow train there. In case you aren't alone CD group passes (SONE+) can be considered for Czech domestic part. 

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vacation train help
« on: January 16, 2010, 12:11:14 am »
Sequence of destinations seems pretty good, especially if you want to maximize overnight journeys:
Warsaw-Krakow starts from 35 PLN - can be purchased online at https://bilet.intercity.pl/irez/ , but overnight journey will be rather short since only takes app. 5 hours (TLK53202 - 00:32-5:57)
Krakow-Prague costs at the moment from app. 37 euro (seat) for direct overnight train (22:11-6:51), but you can travel cheaper - if you are interested we can advice you how ;)
No options for overnight Prague to Salzburg, but you can travel cheap during daytime with Czech railways eTicket (https://eshop.cd.cz/international/search_cd-obb.aspx?lang=E), Prague-Vienna overnight train (00:37-6:22), tickets start from 40 euro (seats). During daytime 19 euro eTickets available.
Vienna/Salzburg-Berlin should be purchase in advance from OEBB or DB websites (start from 39 euro, daytime from 29 euro)
In case of Berlin-Olsztyn it is easier and cheaper to go via Kostrzyn on Polish-German border or Szczecin. From Berlin you take regional train to Kostrzyn or Szczecin (10.5 or 16.7 euro). From there you can get overnight rides to Warsaw, then to Olsztyn. All the timetables and fares for Polish domestic parts here - http://rozklad-pkp.pl/
Berlin-Warsaw/Olsztyn daytime from 29 euro (purchased in advance)

Good luck

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Bohumin/Ostrava /CZ/ -> Villach /AT/
« on: January 15, 2010, 06:18:27 pm »
Well, it seems that you have a variety of choices here:
1) Purchase CityStart ticket from Bohumin/Ostrava to Villach directly, in this case 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th passenger will pay only 50% of the fare, children <15 go for free. The only problem here is that you'll need to purchase CityStar at least 3 days before actual travel (http://www.cd.cz/mezinarodni-cestovani/jizdenka/slevy-evropa/-3886/), so you might need to ask somebody to purchase those in Czech Republic or go on your own. Czech Railways don't give exact price of such CityStar, but our guess, CityStar for 4 adults Bohumin-Villach-Bohumin will cost app. 250-300 euro at max. You can email them and ask to be sure.
2) Czech Railways sell discounted eTickets for the route Praha-Villach and Villach-Praha for EC #172/173 (can be bought online in advance - https://eshop.cd.cz/international/search_cd-obb.aspx), both for 39 euro per person. You can use those not from Praha, but from Brno or Breclav. EC # 173 departs 16:24/17:02 in Villach 22:35, back from Villach 5:27 in Breclav/Brno - 10:53/11:33
3) You purchase eTickets from Ostrava to Wien for 19 euro (even for "Polonia" EC 103), after simply go by slower regional trains with Einfach-Raus-Ticket (28 euro) - will need two changes from Wien to Villach.
4) Not farther than Bohumin and Ostrava there is Slovak Skalite and Cadca, from there you can get similar CityStar ticket to Austria, but even cheaper. Two children go as one adult, thus you'll need CityStar for 5 adults ZSSK<300km OEBB>400. As a result it will cost app. 220-230 euro for all for Skalite-Villach-Skalite via Bratislava. But such route will require couple changes. CityStar ZSSK-OEBB can be purchased even on the day of travel (http://www.slovakrail.sk/index.php?id=city-star---zlava-pre-kazdeho)

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1) Usually in the beginning of June. In case of Zagreb-Split route, additional trains (one day time and two overnight) start to run from 11/06/10 and 18-19/06/10
2) As of now 181.2 Kuna (base tariff 165 kuna + 16 kuna supplement)
3) Ticket can be bought any time, even 10 minutes before departure. And no seat reservation required on Zagreb-Budapest trains.

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Yep... Croatian railways timetable isn't that convenient as more standardized German, Austrian etc., but still it is possible to find out exact schedule. During winter there are only 3 direct trains per day: two daily ICN (fast tilting trains) 7:50-13:49 and 15:19-20:52 + slower overnight train: 22:50-6:56. Supplement for all the InterCity trains in Croatia is 16 kuna (comparing to regular passenger train tariff).
Zagreb to Budapest is rather easy and definitely no need to go via Austria. As of now, there are 3 direct trains per day:
a) 4:56-10:59 (it is Venice-Budapest train EN240)
b) 10:00-16:54 (Zagreb-Budapest train #205)
c) 15:45-22:29 (Zagreb-Budapest carriages which run with Zagreb-Vienna train #284, but get reattached to domestic Hungarian IC train to Budapest in Gyékényes) 
Actually purchasing return tickets Zagreb-Budapest gets you 60% discount from the regular tariff, so it is cheaper to purchase return ticket instead of one way - as of now it costs 30 euro. In case if it is too expensive for you, then there are ways to travel cheaper, but it will require "tricky" tickets (will take more time to purchase).

p.s. just in case - here you can find all the departures from Zagreb main train station - http://www.hznet.hr/iSite3/Default.aspx?sec=169 (click on train number to see schedule), but be careful - some trains run only during summer season.

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Vienna to Zagreb & Ljubljana to Vienna
« on: December 23, 2009, 12:27:20 am »
Hmm... it looks that OEBB has this specific problem with Zagreb only, for example "Ljubljana" works ok. So probably the best way to go here is to write to OEBB and request your Spar ticket via email (they give you code and you print the ticket at any OEBB ticket machine).
Concerning discounts - those available only with regular standard price tickets and not Spar ticket. And usually such discounts are much lower than difference between Spar and standard fare, so here you've got a choice - either purchase discounted Spar ticket in advance or to purchase regular ticket with group, senior etc. discount (these tickets can be bought any time - even 10 minutes before departure)
Concerning Ljubljana-Wien - cheapest option is 29 euro Spar ticket (http://www.slo-zeleznice.si/en/passengers/abroad/austria), but SZ doesn't sell international tickets online, so... no real option here

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Zurich-Bernkastel-Kues:
Actually your ticket options are rather easy here - DB Europe Spezial (discounted international ticket) start from 39 euro per person, need to be purchased in advance on DB website - http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en?newrequest=yes&protocol=http:& (sales start 90 days before departure). In case of overnight journey timetable the situation with Bernkastel-Kues is slightly more complicated since there is not a lot of overnight trains from Switzerland to Germany, but in our opinion your best choice here is Basel-Kiel overnight IC 2868 (departs Basel 23:26) arrives to Koblenz (closest station on the route to Bernkastel-Kues) at 5:01 to get from Zurich to Basel and from Koblenz to Bernkastel-Kues is quite easy - all the timetables can be found here - http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en?newrequest=yes&protocol=http:&

Bernkastel-Kues-Rome: Here once again your best option is DB Europr Spezial (tickets start from 43 euro). Best choice in timetable is CNL overnight train from Munich to Rome - you start the journey at app. 2pm and arrive to Rome 9am next morning - all timetables on DB website.
Unfortunately for you in both case there will be couple changes required.

p.s. in case of Bernkastel-Kues-Rome you might also consider flights - 25km from Bernkastel there is big low-cost airlines airport Frankfurt-Hahn (Ryanair operates one-two daily flight to Rome (Ciampino) everyday).

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The route looks pretty good and the trick with Miskolc is nice, but as far as we know they sell online only tickets from/to Budapest (so if you will search Budapest-Frankfurt on the DB website you will see it), ticket Miskolc-Frankfurt need to be purchased directly from DB counter (for instance you friends, family etc. in Frankfurt).
For the end of January there are plenty of Budapest-Frankfurt 39 euro tickets, so we assume the same applies to Miskolc-Frankfurt.
Anyway in case you worry or don't have a chance to get to DB counter (or ask somebody to do it), then simply purchase Budapest-Frankfurt and Frankfurt-Budapest tickets now and online.

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As far as it seems you have two major option here:

1) Airplane+train: Ryanair operates Bratislava-Frankfurt (Hahn) flights three times per week. Frankfurt (Hahn) is rather far from actual city of Frankfurt, but nevertheless you can manage it rather easy with special bus which will take you from airport to the city in 1:45-2 hours and 12 euro (http://omnibusse.bohr.de/routes/wtc/routes.php?action=detail&language=de&route_id=16). Kosice-Bratislava route has quite good rail connection, it takes from 5 to 6 hours and from 17 to 18.5 euro (depending on type of train).

2) Train: Here you have as well a number of choices
  a) via Bratislava, Wien: Once again take a train to Bratislava, from there train to Wien run really often and cost rather cheap, but unfortunately most of them arrive at Wien-Sud., while ICE trains to Frankfurt depart from Wien-West. So you will have to change in Wien or use public city transport. From Wien you can get cheap discounted Spar ticket to Frankfurt for as low as 29 euro if you purchase it advance here - https://ticket.oebb.at/bin/frame_ticket.pl?ticket=jticket.pl?ABBFSEL=8100003&ANBFSEL=8000105&LANG=EN
  b) It might sound strange, but fastest and app. the same price option is to go to Frankfurt via Budapest. It will require you to make only two changes in Budapest and somewhere either in Wien or Linz. Kosice-Budapest train 6:13- 9:13, Budapest-Munich train departs 11:10, arrives at Wien West at 14:08, while Wien-Frankfurt train departs Wien West at 14:40. DB website suggests to change in Austrian Linz and not Wien - arriving to Linz at 15:50 and departing 16:16.  And here once again you can purchase Spar ticket for the whole route from Budapest to Frankfurt for 39 euro (online and in advance from DB website).
Most reliable website for all the timetables - http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en?newrequest=yes&protocol=http:&

In case you have any additional questions - feel free to ask

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