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Can ONLY be issued together with a-expensive- INTernational ticket into Italy.
Personal experience? According to which rule?

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Well, if there is clearly stated that "RailPlus" is included (I think CD inKartas have the sign on the front side)
The validity is reported on the front side, while the RailPlus logo on the back.

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However from personal experience ticket cashiers in Poland (even at the central stations like Krakow or Warsaw) can know very little about tricky tickets (e.g. SCIC-NRT for Italy), so Polish cashiers reaction like "We don't sell such tickets" or "I don't know how to sell such ticket" unfortunately won't be a surprise.
This is why I want to make sure I am prepared before attempting to buy such a tricky ticket  ;D

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But I don't think it's like this here, CZ-IT and PL-IT should be the same.
Actually I would use such tricky tickets only for domestic travels within Italy (not CZ-IT or PL-IT). I don't see any rule forbidding that. Am I missing anything?

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p.s. if you do try to purchase such ticket and later will have a moment, please post here how did it all went. thanks
Of course I can write a mini-report :) Right now I am still planning out everything, but then I will try buying the ticket in Kraków first, and in case it's impossible, I will likely try in Czech Rep.

EDIT: one more question. Can cashiers "easily" issue a SCIC-NRT ticket with a custom routing?

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Thank you tUt!

As far as I understand, I can get such tickets issued in another country as well, let's say Poland? They should accept my InKarta+Railplus, and have the same prices under SCIC-NRT tariff? I understand that the tariff varies according to the country where one travels.

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Hello all,

I have a CD InKarta (with RailPlus), and I was thinking if it was possible to get some tickets issued with SCIC-NRT tariff -25% RailPlus discount in Czech Republic, in order to get cheaper and better ticket than the ordinary Trenitalia ticket for Regionale trains in Italy.

Let's say, currently Bologna-Venezia Mestre by Regionale costs EUR 11,55, and it comes with annoying limitations (6 hours validity after validation).
On IDOS, the same route with SCIC-NRT + RailPlus is EUR 8,40, and the ticket validity is 15 days, and it would allow breaks.

This is all nice in theory, but how is it in reality? Can I get such ticket issued in Czech Republic? Has anyone showed such a ticket to an Italian conductor?


Thanks :)

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Hello tUt,

thank you a lot for the accurate reply. Ticket splitting doesn't make sense in this case, then ;)

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Hello all :)

I am trying to find the best way to save up on a return trip Timisoara-Belgrad.

Two travellers: 1x 25yo + 1x 17yo.

According to this webpage ( http://serbianrailways.com/active/en/home/glavna_navigacija/putnicki_saobracaj/medjunarodni_saobracaj/cene_prevoza_v01.html ), "Banat Special" is 14€ RT per person.

But with ticket splitting, per person:

Timisoara-Stamora Moravica-Timisoara (5,65 RON * 2 = 11,30 RON = approx. 2,50€) [full fare+advance purchase discount by CFR]

Vrsac-Belgrad-Vrsac 512,- RSD = approx. 4,30€ [round trip fare, source: http://serbianrailways.com/active/en/home/glavna_navigacija/putnicki_saobracaj/unutrasnji_saobracaj/cene_prevoza.html ]

What about the ticket Stamora Moravica-Vrsac? Could it be possible to buy it in Romania before? How much would it be? According to this source ( http://europetrainsguide.com/forum/index.php/topic,704.0.html ), 1,60€ * 2 = 3,20€ for both way (1 person)

Thus, the return trip Timisoara-Belgrad (1 person) would be 2,50€ + 4,30€ + 3,20€ = 10€. Right?

Last thing: are there reduced fares for a foreign 17-yo passenger with ZS and CFR?

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Everything makes sense now! And in your first post you wrote that it costs 37-38€ round-trip. Shouldn't it be exactly half that? Doesn't a 50% reduction apply?
It is already fare with discount from standard East-West tariff, so it is final quote. If you intend to purchase this ticket anywhere else - you will pay twice as much. The only cheaper option - hitchhiking.
I see. Thank you!

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And I know that Ukrainian students can get a 50% discount! That's even more wonderful
But unfortunately ISIC doens't work, only Ukrainian student cards.
Unfortunately  :(

Thank you very much for the help!

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Very nice!

Other photos would be appreciated, of course ;)

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General Discussion / Introductions
« on: August 05, 2010, 01:02:08 am »
Hello.
If the admin doesn't mind, I'm starting the first thread in this section.

Let's introduce ourselves!

I'm a 20-yo guy from Bari, southern Italy. I'm addicted to travelling, even if I have almost no spare money.
I usually travel when I find cheap Ryanair/Wizzair tickets and I had some spare money.

My last leisure travel was two weeks Ukraine, with a round-trip to Cluj-Napoca, Romania. I also visited Moldova for one day.
I find the transportation system in that country excellent, despite of the bad roads and the slow trains.

And I want to return there as often as possible, for countless reasons. And maybe it can be a good starting point for Russia and Belarus? ;)
If they only lifted the visa requirement... ::)

Ok, that's enough for now. It's your turn! Who are you? Why are you here? How do you travel?

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I'm sure I can't get a 100€ Bari - Kyiv return plane ticket with other airlines
You are probably right, if we are talking about standard non low-cost airlines. In order to say more about low-cost airlines options some needs +/- exact dates of travel.
You're right. And the most important thing is to wait for the right offer!

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And is this train with a seat reservation? I guess it's a Hungarian wagon?
No, it is just ticket. If you want to use Hungarian InterCity train, then you will need to buy seat reservation (app. 2 euro) separately, but you can always use regular trains and don't pay anything extra. And yes, on the route Budapest-Zahony-Chop all the carriages (besides sleeping ones in "Tisza" #15 train) are Hungarian (MAV).
Everything makes sense now! And in your first post you wrote that it costs 37-38€ round-trip. Shouldn't it be exactly half that? Doesn't a 50% reduction apply?

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and I really liked the 3rd class. Much better than Italian overnight 'espresso' trains with a seater place.
especially ticket fare  ;)
;) And I know that Ukrainian students can get a 50% discount! That's even more wonderful :D

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Hi,

In case of Bari-Ukraine you might consider as well planes to Poland (or even Romania). Another air option is directly to Ukraine, since there are a lot of ukrainians work in Italy, thus you can find quite a number of regular and charter flights to Lviv and less so to Kyiv. Fares are rather high, but in some cases you might find a good deal (same applies to CarpatAir flights to Ukraine via Timisoara and WizzAir Treviso-Kiev)
Ideally, the best solution would be Bari -> Treviso with a Ryanair discounted ticket (even if they were much easier to get before 2010), and Treviso -> Kyiv Boryspil' with Wizzair (the best price seems to be 35€).

With this combination, I may pay around 90€ round-trip. I'm sure I can't get a 100€ Bari - Kyiv return plane ticket with other airlines  ;)

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In case of train option from Budapest, then obviously Zahony-Chop-Kyiv is simplest and cheapest way. Budapest -> Chop (return ticket) - around 37-38 euro and better not to split (Budapest -> Záhony + Záhony -> Chop), because after MAV raised domestic fares it is cheaper to buy one direct international ticket.
Bus connections in that are are extremely bad, besides daily Nyíregyháza-Uzghorod (arrives to Uzghorod around 6pm) and Vienna-Budapest-Kiev once or twice per week there is nothing else.
Ah, good, exactly what I wanted to know!  And is this train with a seat reservation? I guess it's a Hungarian wagon?

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Do you really want to take 3rd class (known as 'platskart')? It might be not the best option for the foreigner, unless you are experienced one  ;)
Of course! ;) This spring I've travelled in Ukraine with platskart, elektrichka and marshrutka, and I really liked the 3rd class. Much better than Italian overnight 'espresso' trains with a seater place.

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Another interesting, but more expensive rail option is CityStar Slovakia-Ukraine. Definitely more comfort, so you can consider it as well.
Then I'd discard it, since it's more expensive. I'm really on a tight budget, so the cheapest option is automatically the best.

Thank you very much for the reply :)

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Train fares and tariffs / Cheapest way from Budapest to Kyiv (and back)
« on: August 04, 2010, 08:26:43 pm »
Hello.
I'm looking for the cheapest way to reach Kyiv from Bari (Italy).

The first part of the trip would be done by plane: Bari -> Budapest (Wizzair).

Then, I guess the most convenient way to reach Kyiv is via Záhony -> Chop.
But what's the cheapest way to do so?

Budapest -> Chop (return ticket) ; what's the price?
Chop -> Kyiv (3rd class ticket) ; I already know how to get the price from e-kvytok.
Or should I split the ticket: Budapest -> Záhony (return ticket) + Záhony -> Chop (return ticket)?

Or maybe buses from Hungary to an Ukrainian border city are cheaper?

Thank you for your help!

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