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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj Napoca
« on: May 22, 2013, 05:19:51 am »
I'm willing to go during the day and comeback to Budapest on the 22h47 train, which means a long night journey. Is it possible to buy a normal excursion ticket and ask for a couchette or a sleeping carriage for the back trip, paying a fee for it? How much would it cost?
Yes, as far as we know, it's not a problem to use "Excursion" ticket for the overnight trains (obviously as far as it's still 2nd class trip, thus in 6 or 4 berth couchette, 3 or 2 bed sleeper, but not single sleeper for which 1st. class ticket is required). However maybe we misunderstood you, but there is no decent overnight train from Cluj-Napoca to Budapest, among the direct trains there is one in the evening (15:01-21:20) and then in the middle of the night (2:21am-9:05am), what did you mean by 22h47 train?

Hi

Thank you for the info! I've performed a research on http://elvira.mav-start.hu/ for train's schedule Cluj-Napoca-Budapest    and I got this one late in the evening: 22:57 (departure)   08:50 (arrival) Budapest-Keleti   1   10:53

Am I doing a wrong research on MAV website? There are plenty of trains Budapest-Cluj-Budapest (and inverse) if you search from Budapest to Cluj Napoca.

Best,
Andre        

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj Napoca
« on: May 20, 2013, 11:06:36 pm »
1. Do I need to buy the excursion ticket in advance?
No, Kirándulójegy (or so-called "Excursion") tickets aren't the type of tickets that get sold out, there is no limit per train or day, so you can easily buy it already in Budapest. However Hungarian Railways (MAV) also allows to purchase it via MAV Ticket Shop, so if you want, then you can buy it even right now (although remember that on MAV website such "Excursion" ticket will be with two additional seat reservations 3 euro each, meaning that total price will be 31+3+3 or 37 euro)
2. Does this ticket allow me to travel e.g. from Brasov-Sibiu or in other routes during my stay in Romania till I get back to Budapest? Or is it only a go-return ticket from Budapest-Cluj Napoca and from Cluj Napoca to Budapest? I'm asking this because I want to go to Oradea before returning to Budapest, which means I'm not doing a direct journey Cluj-Napoca/ Budapest.
Well, first of all Brasov and Sibiu are much further inside Romania than Cluj, so there is no way how ticket till Cluj-Napoca can cover journeys there. Second, MAV "Excursion" tickets doesn't allow stopovers on the way, so when using it you won't be able to "break" your journeys. Although instead you can: a) simply buy "Excursion" ticket Budapest-Oradea (Nagyvard in Hungarian), it's also offered by Hungarian Railways and cost just 21 euro, while for all the trips inside Romania you can simply get domestic Romanian tickets; b) get Excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj-Budapest, but on the way back board the train in Oradea (again for all the trips in Romania including Cluj to Oradea you just buy domestic Romanian tickets); c) you can as well get full fare standard ticket Budapest-Cluj-Budapest, it cost 50 euro, but allows as many stopovers as you want (obviously as far as you don't travel any part more than twice)
Or, as a totally different approach and if your plans allow it, for the the trip there you can buy in advance via MAV website discounted (offer "Fortuna") ticket from Budapest to Brasov (start from only 19 euro), then gradually travel back west (via Sibiu-Cluj) using Romanian domestic tickets, while finally from Oradea just get standard full fare ticket to Budapest, it cost 19 euro
3. In which train station should I buy this ticket and leave to Cluj Napoca?
Passengers can purchase tickets from Hungary to Romania at any MAV international ticket counters, those are located at all the major train station in Budapest (Keleti, Nyugati, Deli), also there is MAV ticket office at József Attila (it's near Dear Ference ter metro station) and again, as was said above, passengers can buy tickets online via MAV website (we even have a step by step guide for buying tickets via Hungarian Railways website - http://europetrainsguide.com/Advice/How-to-Buy-Train-Tickets/Hungary-MAV.html)
Regarding train station for trains departing to Cluj - all the direct trains from Budapest to Cluj-Napoca depart from Budapest-Keleti station

Sorry to bother again, but I just remembered this. I've decided to buy the excursion ticked Budapest-Cluj-Budapest, but I'm willing to go during the day and comeback to Budapest on the 22h47 train, which means a long night journey. Is it possible to buy a normal excursion ticket and ask for a couchette or a sleeping carriage for the back trip, paying a fee for it? How much would it cost?

Thanks again!

Best,
André

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj Napoca
« on: May 20, 2013, 11:02:29 pm »
1. Do I need to buy the excursion ticket in advance?
No, Kirándulójegy (or so-called "Excursion") tickets aren't the type of tickets that get sold out, there is no limit per train or day, so you can easily buy it already in Budapest. However Hungarian Railways (MAV) also allows to purchase it via MAV Ticket Shop, so if you want, then you can buy it even right now (although remember that on MAV website such "Excursion" ticket will be with two additional seat reservations 3 euro each, meaning that total price will be 31+3+3 or 37 euro)
2. Does this ticket allow me to travel e.g. from Brasov-Sibiu or in other routes during my stay in Romania till I get back to Budapest? Or is it only a go-return ticket from Budapest-Cluj Napoca and from Cluj Napoca to Budapest? I'm asking this because I want to go to Oradea before returning to Budapest, which means I'm not doing a direct journey Cluj-Napoca/ Budapest.
Well, first of all Brasov and Sibiu are much further inside Romania than Cluj, so there is no way how ticket till Cluj-Napoca can cover journeys there. Second, MAV "Excursion" tickets doesn't allow stopovers on the way, so when using it you won't be able to "break" your journeys. Although instead you can: a) simply buy "Excursion" ticket Budapest-Oradea (Nagyvard in Hungarian), it's also offered by Hungarian Railways and cost just 21 euro, while for all the trips inside Romania you can simply get domestic Romanian tickets; b) get Excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj-Budapest, but on the way back board the train in Oradea (again for all the trips in Romania including Cluj to Oradea you just buy domestic Romanian tickets); c) you can as well get full fare standard ticket Budapest-Cluj-Budapest, it cost 50 euro, but allows as many stopovers as you want (obviously as far as you don't travel any part more than twice)
Or, as a totally different approach and if your plans allow it, for the the trip there you can buy in advance via MAV website discounted (offer "Fortuna") ticket from Budapest to Brasov (start from only 19 euro), then gradually travel back west (via Sibiu-Cluj) using Romanian domestic tickets, while finally from Oradea just get standard full fare ticket to Budapest, it cost 19 euro
3. In which train station should I buy this ticket and leave to Cluj Napoca?
Passengers can purchase tickets from Hungary to Romania at any MAV international ticket counters, those are located at all the major train station in Budapest (Keleti, Nyugati, Deli), also there is MAV ticket office at József Attila (it's near Dear Ference ter metro station) and again, as was said above, passengers can buy tickets online via MAV website (we even have a step by step guide for buying tickets via Hungarian Railways website - http://europetrainsguide.com/Advice/How-to-Buy-Train-Tickets/Hungary-MAV.html)
Regarding train station for trains departing to Cluj - all the direct trains from Budapest to Cluj-Napoca depart from Budapest-Keleti station

Hi!

I'm so sorry I'm answering this late, but I thought I would receive an email alert. :) Thank you so much for the information, it was really helpful! Great job!

Best wishes,
André

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How many trains service this line, and at what times?
At the moment there are 4 direct train between Budapest and Cluj per day: 6:40am-14:42 (IC 367), 9:40am-17:40 (IC 363), 14:40-22:38 (IC 365) and 17:40-1:36am (train #407)
Also, what options of tickets do we have available?
Well, standard full fare one-way ticket Budapest-Cluj is 32,50 €, while return is 50,00 €. Besides that there is also discounted one-way tickets from 19 euro (need to be purchased in advance). And finally for Budapest-Cluj route available as well so-called 'Excursion ticket' ("kirándulójegy" in Hungarian), it is return ticket valid during 4 days, so in case you plan to stay in Romania <4 days, this option might be the best in terms of money.
What is the price difference between a day train and a sleepertrain?
Difference basically is in sleeper reservation fare, but the problem for you is that there is no real overnight train option here (see timetable above). So you will either need to travel with change in the morning (for instance in Alba Iulia) or opt for daytime journey. Anyway cheapest couchette/sleeper options for Budapest-X (station where you'll change in the morning) start from 29 euro in couchette or 49 euro for sleeper (in both cases ticket+reservation included) 
How big are the sleeper/couchette rooms and how much do they cost?
For sleepers you can expect something like this, while couchettes are obviously a bit more spartan

Hi everyone!

I've read you mentioning the excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj Napoca, valid for 4 days and sold for 31 euros. I'm travelling to Budapest on 23rd May and going for 4 days to Romania, 25-28th May. I think this is the best option for me, but I need your help here.
1. Do I need to buy the excursion ticket in advance?
2. Does this ticket allow me to travel e.g. from Brasov-Sibiu or in other routes during my stay in Romania till I get back to Budapest? Or is it only a go-return ticket from Budapest-Cluj Napoca and from Cluj Napoca to Budapest? I'm asking this because I want to go to Oradea before returning to Budapest, which means I'm not doing a direct journey Cluj-Napoca/ Budapest.
3. In which train station should I buy this ticket and leave to Cluj Napoca?

Thank you for your help!

Best,
Andre

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Train fares and tariffs / Excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj Napoca
« on: May 14, 2013, 07:58:00 pm »
Hi everyone!

I've read in a previous thread someone mentioning the excursion ticket Budapest-Cluj Napoca, valid for 4 days and sold for 31 euros. I'm travelling to Budapest on 23rd May and going for 4 days to Romania, 25-28th May. I think this is the best option for me, but I need your help here.
1. Do I need to buy the excursion ticket in advance?
2. Does this ticket allow me to travel e.g. from Brasov-Sibiu or in other routes during my stay in Romania till I get back to Budapest? Or is it only a go-return ticket from Budapest-Cluj Napoca and from Cluj Napoca to Budapest? I'm asking this because I want to go to Oradea before returning to Budapest, which means I'm not doing a direct journey Cluj-Napoca/ Budapest.
3. In which train station should I buy this ticket and leave to Cluj Napoca?

Thank you for your help!

Best,
Andre

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