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Train fares and tariffs / SCIC-SET
« on: February 15, 2014, 09:51:07 pm »
Here is the base price for the SCIC-SET tariff in EUR.

        class              class
km 2nd  1st    km  2nd  1st
30 1,60 2,40  220 9,60 14,40
35 1,80 2,80  240 10,60 16,00
40 2,00 3,00  260 11,40 17,20
45 2,20 3,40  280 12,40 18,60
50 2,40 3,60  300 13,20 19,80
55 2,80 4,20  320 14,00 21,00
60 3,00 4,60  340 15,00 22,60
65 3,40 5,20  360 15,80 23,80
70 3,60 5,40  380 16,80 25,20
75 3,80 5,80  400 17,60 26,40
80 4,00 6,00  420 18,40 27,60
85 4,20 6,40  440 19,40 29,20
90 4,40 6,60  460 20,20 30,40
95 4,60 7,00  480 21,20 31,80
100 4,80 7,20  500 22,00 33,00
110 5,60 8,40  550 22,20 33,40
120 6,00 9,00  600 24,20 36,40
130 6,40 9,60  650 26,20 39,40
140 6,80 10,20  700 28,20 42,40
150 7,20 10,80  750 30,20 45,40
160 7,80 11,80  800 32,20 48,40
170 8,20 12,40  850 34,20 51,40
180 8,60 13,00  900 36,00 54,00
190 9,00 13,60  950 38,00 57,00
200 9,40 14,20  951 and more 40,00 60,00

Tariff is calculated separately for every railway on the route of the ticket.

On this tariff you get:
-20% off for groups of 6 or more people
-50% off for FIP legitimation holders (except TCDD)
-25% off for Rail Plus legitimation holders (exept TCDD)

bilateral discounts between ŽS with other railways:

ŽS-ŽPCG
20% off SCIC-SET
+ on that price 30% off for groups of 6 or more (for mini groups 20% off for passengers 2-5), and 50% off for groups of 12 or more (only off season, on season only 30% off)


ŽS-MŽ
20% off SCIC-SET for return tickets

ŽS-ŽRS-ŽFBH
20% off SCIC-SET
+ on that price 20% off for return tickets, or 30% for gruops of 6 or more
for transit trough HŽ HŽ-SET and HŽ-ŽS discounts are applicable (SCIC-NRT x 0,7 x 0,7)


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All SCIC-EWT tickets are now valid 15 days, except City Star Slovakia-Russia and Russia-Slovakia which are valid for one month. SCIC-SET tickets are valid 15 days in one direction and one return tickets one month. SCIC-SET return tickets bought in Turkey are valid 15 days.

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Beograd Sofia price
« on: January 02, 2013, 12:51:36 pm »
If it's not late now...

Beograd - Sofia return ticket with Railplus is 30,90 EUR.

You can also travel cheaper, avoiding international fare, buying return ticket Beograd - Dimitrovgrad (1523 RSD with Railplus) and then buying ticket from border to Sofia from Bulgarian conductor which is arround 4 BGN, 2 EUR or 250 RSD (payable in all 3 currencies usually).

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So, definitely..

Only Citystar ZSSK-UZ-RŽD remains. All other Citystars to and from Russia (Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria) are gone.

P.S. Some examples of global prices introduced:

Sapsan Moskva - St. Peterburg arround 86 EUR (2nd class)
Rossiya Moskva - Vladivostok 638 EUR (T4)  :o

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My question to Kontaktne centrum ŽSSK:

Quote
Dear,

please tell me the prices for return City Star tickets for 1 person
and 2 persons from Bratislava to:

-Lvov
-Kiev
-Moskva (via UZ and via PKP/BC)
-Minsk (via UZ and via PKP/BC)
-Vladivostok (via UZ and via PKP/BC)

Answer:

Quote
Price of the return ticket Bratislava – Lvov – Bratislava is 86,16 € for an adult.

Price of the City Star ticket Bratislava – Lvov – Bratislava  is 94,80 € for 2 passengers.

It is necessary to buy also a bed to the direct sleeping car. The price of the one bed is 12 € for one person and one way.

 

Price of the return ticket Bratislava – Moskva – Bratislava is 129,36 € for an adult. (they probably thought Kiev)

Price of the City Star ticket Bratislava – Lvov – Bratislava  is 132,60 € for 2 passengers. (they probably thought Kiev)

The price of the one bed is 20 € for one person and one way.

 

Price of the City Star ticket Bratislava – Moskva – Bratislava via UZ is 98,40 for an adult and 147,60 € for 2 passengers.

The price of the one bed is 29 € for one person and one way.

 

Price of the City Star ticket Bratislava – Minsk – Bratislava via UZ is 184,80 for an adult and 320,60 € for 2 passengers.

 

Price of the City Star ticket Bratislava – Vladivostok – Bratislava via UZ is 134,40 for an adult and 201,60 € for 2 passengers.

The price of the one bed Bratislava – Moskva is 29 € for one person and one way.

The price of the one bed Moskva - Vladivostok is about 231 € for one person and one way.

 

The CityStar ticket to RZD and BC via PKP/BC have cannot be purchased since 9.12.2012.

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Hm..

Tried today at ŽS agency to see the global price for Sapsan Moskva - Sankt Peterburg, and for "Rossiya" Moskva - Vladivostok, for 13th December, but it gives reservation only for the same prices as before. Maybe selling of global prices will be implemented from 9th December.   ???

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Is it true, that the Slovakia-Russia City-Star ticket will cease to exist in 2013?
Well, there are rumors (=non-official level, but rather trusted source) about "cease to exist" coming from the Russian side, while on the contrary ZSSK in a more or less official reply says that CityStar will still be available in 2013. Apparently somebody is wrong, but it is a bit difficult to say now which side  :-\

It's not the first time ZSSK gives the wrong information. I have experience getting totally different answers on last day of old timetable, and first day of new timetable. According to other sources the will be no City-Star RZD-ZSSK via UZ (via BC/PKP unknown), no RZD-ZS and no RZD-ZCG. RZD-BDZ is unknown.

UZ East-west tariff for 2012/2013 is published: http://zakon1.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/z1834-12

Also RZD reservation list for 2012/2013 is published: http://www.uic.org/IMG/pdf/information_rzd_2012-2013_stand_09_12_12_.pdf

Interesting is that all Sapsans, and lot of other domestic RZD trains become Global price (including 1/2 "Rossiya" Moskva - Vladivostok, 9/10 "Baikal" Sankt Peterburg - Irkutsk, 7/8 Novosibirsk - Vladivostok, 1/2 "Premium" Moskva - Kazan, 15/16 "Premium" Moskva - Yekaterinburg, and others). It will be interesting to see prices in western Europe for them, although I suspect they will be expensive...

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: TCV tariffs per country
« on: April 23, 2012, 02:57:40 pm »
TCV tariff for Italy looks quite cheap, but I heard it's valid for regional trains only. Do you have any information is it possible to buy surcharge for IC trains? And also, is TCV ticket valid for Trenord regional train Tirano - Milano?

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Interesting also - on RZD counter you can buy City Star to Slovakia via Cadca(Gr), where the RZD, BC, PKP and ZSSK part is calculated as City Star, and gives 50% discount for fellow passenger. and CD part, which is calculated as normal price, without discount for fellow passenger.

By the way, from yesterday ASU PP (UZ) is connected to EPA, so it is now technically possible do electronicaly book UZ domestic and international trans.

10
btw, also interesting that ZSSK part in the above reference is counted using regular tariff (basically a sum) instead of more expensive standard ZSSK part (which would have been applied in case 'Ekonomnye zeny' were issued for like Moscow-Bratislava or so).

On RZD counters if "normal" price is cheaper than predefined price for City Star (Ekonomnaya cena) for any railway on the route of City Star ticket, "normal" price is calculated. In practice, it's only for stations located really close to border point. I don't know is that rule also valid for other railways issuing City Star tickets.

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I found answer why ZSSK gave me weird price for CityStar for two passengers. Obviously, on UZ part there is no discount for fellow travelers, which can be seen here:


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It is available, but only with non-computerized tickets (unless ZSSK stopped issuing those). While with 'standard' ones, system just doesn't allow to choose any point after last real RZD station, at least it used to be like this.

They issue only computerized tickets, at least they told me so one year ago.

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It's even possible to guess where the mistake comes from, imho, from the issue regarding 'gr.', so if ZSSK official checked via computer (probably did), then it wouldn't show CityStar option for 'gr./fr.' points, but only East-West.

So, if I understood correctly City Star option for border points isn't available?

14
Hmmm, quite weird things from ZSSK...

Today I sent e-mail to them requiring about City Star on route Šturovo - Tumangan(Gr) and they gave me the price of 268,78 EUR via UZ, which is totally different then they told me earlier in December and also different from info I got from RZD side (both varied between 165-168 EUR) for RZD>1500 km.

I thought maybe somebody incompetent answered me and mistakenly gave me the price for one way east-west tariff ticket. So after that I asked for the price of City Star Šturovo - Ussuriisk for 2 persons, and they gave me the price of 295,92 EUR via UZ which also doesn't fit the previus...

At least one of those prices (if not both) they gave is wrong...

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Currently train from Bucharest goes only till Kapikule (Turkish border station), and because of the track reconstruction, Turkish railways organized the bus to takeover passengers from Kapikule to Istanbul. It is likely that everything will be same in mid-April.

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