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Train fares and tariffs / Re: TCV tariffs per country
« on: October 06, 2011, 11:40:29 am »
SET tariff is bit strange. For example, prices for connections Serbia-Romania are higher then Romania-Serbia.

Some useful pages:
http://dijszabas.uw.hu/dijszabas/index.php

http://passport.uic.asso.fr/default.dhtml

for second link use username and password from this document:
dijszabas.uw.hu/dijszabas/download.php?fname=./market%20prices.txt


32
Yes, the price ŽS conductor sold you is right. Basic price Subotica - Beograd costs 560 din + fast train surcharge 100 din + 30% surcharge for issuing ticket onboard = 858 din.

34
We heard stories when cashiers actually managed to sell cheap as dirt domestic reservation to E-W ticket.

Do you have any information where and how?


35
c) by bus to Montenegro, then by train to Serbia and from there already catch train to Thessaloniki via FYR Macedonia

Greece railways from 12th February canceled all international trains until further notice.

36
Train fares and tariffs / Re: Bratislava-lvov?
« on: April 13, 2011, 05:25:47 pm »
I was informed that City Star ticket from Slovenia to any station(in our case Čierna nad Tisou) in Slovakia would cost 45eur per person.
Is that price via Hungary or via Austria?

37
Travel plans, routes and timetables / Zvolen - Moscow
« on: April 12, 2011, 12:36:52 pm »
There is direct sleeping car 782 Zvolen os. st. - Moskva Kievskaia in the train 933. It runs as need may be. What does it mean? In which circumstances it does run or does not run?

38
Train fares and tariffs / Re: Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 12, 2011, 11:20:17 am »
So, then probably, only hope is try to get ticket issued by hand in Šturovo, but I have to check it before is it still possible like Gyuri said.

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 12, 2011, 12:02:54 am »
Hmmm, now I am reexamening the Russia rail map (http://www.parovoz.com/maps/supermap/).

You said that Jizdenka is simplified version of what ČD and ZSSK have. In which way? Because there is the whole route of Vladivostok - Harkov train in Jizdenka, just sections need to be cut into pieces, to be functional this way:

section 17693: Vladivostok*irkutsk*novsib*omsk*sverdl*Moskva (part Vladivostok - Novosibirsk)
section 79041: Novosibirsk*cheliabinsk*samara*penza*Voronej (part Novosibirsk - Rtiscevo 1) Rtiscevo not written on the ticket, but obviously on the route
section 56012: Saratov 1 P*balashov*Topoli(Gr) (part Rtiscevo 1 - Topoli(Gr)) Rtiscevo not written on the ticket, but obviously on the route


Or, if not possible to cut into pieces to do this:

Section    State    Km    Name
17693    RUS    9258    Vladivostok*irkutsk*novsib*omsk*sverdl*Moskva
17622    RUS    2676    Moskva*sverdl*Omsk Pass
25011    RUS    2861    Omsk Pass*cheliabinsk*samara*penza*Voronej
19076    RUS    253    Voronej*Tambov 1
17933    RUS    380    Tambov 1*Saratov 1 P
56012    RUS    815    Saratov 1 P*balashov*Topoli(Gr)

That way I'll get this (unused parts in brackets):
VIA <0020>irkutsk*novsib*omsk(*sverdl*moskva*sverdl*omsk pass)*cheliabinsk*samara*penza(*voronej*tambov 1*saratov 1 p)*balashov

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 11, 2011, 11:19:12 pm »
After they wrote me "2 possible routes", I asked is the route via Penza instead Saratov possible, they wrote me that it is, but with both Saratov 1 P and Penza written on the ticket. So I thought it will be like you wrote here:
IRKUTSK*NOVOSIBIRSK*OMSK*CHELIABINSK GL*(PENZA/SARATOV 1) *BALASHOV*TOPOLI(GR)

I asked them what route will be written on the ticket and they sent me this:

on the ticket you can choose from 2 routes ... via MICHURINSK*TAMBOV or without MICHURINSK.

1.     IRKUTSK*NOVOSIBIRSK*OMSK*(EKATERINBURG*MOSKVA*RIAZAN)*PENZA 1*VORONEJ*MICHURINSK*TAMBOV*SARATOV 1 P*BALASHOV*TOPOLI(GR)

2.     IRKUTSK*NOVOSIBIRSK*OMSK*(EKATERINBURG*MOSKVA*RIAZAN)*PENZA 1*VORONEJ*TAMBOV 1*SARATOV 1 P*BALASHOV*TOPOLI(GR)


After I saw this, I knew this conversation is going nowhere...

I'll ask jfk if he finds some free time to go to Bratislava train station, to make an inquiry about this...

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 11, 2011, 10:16:18 pm »
Well, I think we see the problem here - Topoli (gr) in the computer is only bounded with sections "balashov*Saratov 1 P" or further (but all of them are also via Saratov only), that is why the only choice system gives you is route via Saratov. As result, after Omsk it gives you choice either to go southern way via Kazahstan (Omsk Pass*cheliabinsk*ufa*Saratov 1 P) or northern (via EKATERINBURG), but since you can't avoid Saratov-Topoli (as already mentioned, it is the only section available for Topoli), then system proposes you to get back on track from northern to southern route via EKATERINBURG*MOSKVA*RIAZAN*UFA (basically advising you to take a loop all the way to Moscow, so you only can get back on route via Saratov). At least it seems like this, because it is the only reason why jizdenka trying to get you back on route Cheliabinsk-Ufa-Samara-Saratov-Topoli

Yes, but it seams that there must be some difference between Jizdenka, and ZSSK computer, because in Jizdenka to go to Vladivostok via Saratov - Cheliabinsk - Omsk and so on you have only this:

Section 56012: Topoli(Gr)*balashov*Saratov 1 P

and then for Saratov

Section 17916: Saratov 1 P*ufa*cheliabinsk*Omsk Pass
 
or

Section 77915: Saratov 1 P*cheliabinsk*omsk*Novosibirsk

but further on from Omsk or Novosibirsk there is no route section to east, so Jizdenka shows route back to Moscow, and than from Moscow there are route sections to further east from Omsk or Novosibirsk. So there's got to be some route sections included in ZSSK computer from Omsk or Novosibirsk to the east, which are not existent in Jizdenka nor at http://dijszabas.uw.hu/dijszabas/index.php.

I was also wondering what will happen in case I have route via IRKUTSK*NOVOSIBIRSK*OMSK*CHELIABINSK GL*SARATOV 1 P*BALASHOV*TOPOLI(GR) written on the ticket together with Vladivostok - Harkov sleeper reservation  ??? Probably, it's too big risk.
 

42
Train fares and tariffs / Re: Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 11, 2011, 08:46:03 pm »
... they were issuing international ticket by hand, so you could buy Citystar Russia tickets for all kinds of routes which are not listed in ZSSK computer.
As far as we remember, Gyuri mentioned that some time ago ticket counter in Sturovo (which might be even better destination for those coming from the south) was also issuing hand written tickets, but with small delay - like for the next day.

Well, it's question what situation is now. Yesterday I e-mailed ZSSK about possibility for routing the ticket via the route of train Vladivostok - Harkov, and they said that in their computer there is possibility of 2 directions:

1st via EKATERINBURG*MOSKVA*RIAZAN*UFA
2nd via CHELIABINSK GL*SARATOV 1 P*BALASHOV

and that on the ticket will be writing like this:

IRKUTSK*NOVOSIBIRSK*OMSK*(EKATERINBURG*MOSKVA*RIAZAN*UFA) CHELIABINSK GL*SARATOV 1 P*BALASHOV*TOPOLI(GR)

which is really strange to me, because in the brackets, there is usualy standing / sign, like an option to choose between two routes.

and, what is really strange also is that on jizdenka I can find that route, but without brackets: http://jizdenka.idos.cz/IT.aspx?FocusDisabled=true&Lang=69&Handle=53728b46-2666-48ed-9c1b-af831ce07e07

and before that they said to me twice that route Vladivostok - Irkutsk - Novosibirsk - Omsk - Cheliabinsk - Ufa - Samara - Penza - Balashov - Topoli (Gr) is possible to issue. Now it seems that it's not, so if didn't ask 3 times, I could buy reservation in advance wrongly knowing that it is possible to issue the ticket for that route. They also said that issuing ticket by hand isn't possible.

Really unprofessional!!!

So that's why I asked for Wasteels in Bratislava. Now my only hope is to try Šturovo, or to use Citystar Serbia - Russia bought here in Wasteels, but that way is more expensive, and I lose few days because it's longer journey from Belgrad to Russia via Romania.


43
Train fares and tariffs / Re: Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 11, 2011, 07:51:30 pm »
To my best knowledge, Wasteels closed its office in Bratislava and no longer offers any services.

 :-[

I suspected...Recently also Wasteels in Prague closed it's office. It's pity, because they were issuing international ticket by hand, so you could buy Citystar Russia tickets for all kinds of routes which are not listed in ZSSK computer...

44
Train fares and tariffs / Wasteels Bratislava
« on: April 11, 2011, 05:08:19 pm »
Hello tUt,

Do you have contact e-mail from Wasteels office in Bratislava?  I tried wasteels@zutom.sk, but it's not working.

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Similar cool trick here is also use of Irkutsk/Novosibirsk etc.-Terespol reservations (basically it frees you from BČ carriages, thus can use relatively low populated RZD RIC instead). RZD-BČ reservations with East-West is actually more expensive than RZD-PKP, so Novosibirsk-Brest reservation is more expensive than Novosibirsk-Terespol etc. But if you original idea is Moscow, than, I guess, there just a need to look which one will be cheaper (depending on your starting destination) - X-Orsha (with BČ) or X-Terespol (with RZD).

I think that BČ T4 is slightly cheaper then RŽD T3 in this case. Example Irkutsk - Minsk BČ T4 - 56 EUR, Irkutsk - Warszawa RŽD T3 63 EUR. And in my expirience it's more comfortable to use wide profile kupe (T4) carriages then narrow RIC T3.

Imho, nothing. You have all the necessary travel docs (ticket+reservation for certain route) and it doesn't matter whether you board the train at the station listed as starting (in your case Orsha) or any other throughout the actual route (for instance Moscow). Similar question was many times discussed about domestic tickets and boarding on station later than originating. Some time ago passenger was suppose to send free telegram and notify about late boarding, but later this rule was dropped, so now you can board the train at any station of the route.

Well, there could be one problem with this in CIS countries because in lot of cases tickets at en-route stations are sold only few hours before departure and without berth number specified, only carriage. Provodnik showes free places to them. So if you board later your berth can be occupied.

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