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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Sleeper Train from Budapest to Brasov
« on: April 13, 2016, 02:21:50 am »
update: tickets Budapest-Brasov for July 12 already available, discounted "Fortuna" tickets start from 19 euro, couchettes from 29 euro, sleepers from 49 euro per person

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Sleeper Train from Budapest to Brasov
« on: April 12, 2016, 08:20:39 pm »
Nothing to worry about here, trains will not be canceled. The issue here seems to be is that on this connection Hungarian Railways (MAV) sell tickets as early as 90 days before departure. As of today the last "available" date is July 11, thus tomorrow you should be able to purchase your tickets for July 12

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: ICE trains compared to TGV
« on: April 12, 2016, 05:44:20 pm »
Well, wanting to be flexible with dates kind of disqualifies from the race cheap discounted tickets, which most of the time should be bought in advance & valid only for specific train & date. The options that are left then is either buying before departure or going with rail pass. Anyhow, let's take a look at each leg (all fares are for 2nd class):

Amsterdam to Ypres: neither TGV (mainly French Railways trains), nor ICE (mainly Germany Railways trains) is an option here. Dutch Railways will sell you ticket for regular (InterCity trains) to Ieper for 59,60 per person, journey with two changes (Rotterdam & Antwerp) will take about four and a half hours. In case you want to travel faster (about an hour), then you can always go for high-speed Thalys train (on part from Amsterdam to Antwerp), however it increases ticket fare to 79,50 euro per person. Kind of expensive, especially taking into consideration that discounted tickets for Thalys start from 29 euro (if bought in advance) + another 17 euro for Brussels-Ypres leg
Ypres to Strasbourg: most logical route here is Ypres to Lille and then (using TGV train) to Strasbourg. Ypres to Lille is about hour and a half with one change in Kortrijk, standard ticket cost 14,60 euro per person. With Lille to Strasbourg (3:20-3:50 depending on departure) things get complicated, because French Railways (SNCF) to get the best fare you'll need to book well in advance, while flexibility will cost you about 100 euro per passenger here.
Strasbourg to Geneva: for those who don't want to purchase ticket in advance things are looking much better here, mainly because you can get (either via already mentioned French Railways website or at the ticket counter) relatively cheap regional (TER) train from Strasbourg to Basel first (24,10 euro per person, about 1:20 min.) and then travel with Swiss Railways, which has good option called SuperSaver ticket (can be purchased even before departure) for 37,60-45 CHF (standard full fare ticket here is 75 CHF per person)
Geneva to Lyon: probably easiest trip, since it's rather short (slightly less than 2 hours) and there is relatively cheap direct regional trains (TER) for 28 euro/31 CHF
Cahors to Paris: no TGV here, but you have direct InterCites trains making a journey in about 5:30 (flexible fare is close to 80 euro, but discounted tickets run for twice as cheap and, surprisingly, available even for some trains as soon as tomorrow)

Now about rail pass option... if we calculate sum total for flexible tickets mentioned above it all adds up to about 300-370 euro per person (60 euro for Amsterdam to Ypres, another 115 euro for Ypres-Lille-Strasbourg, then 24 euro to Basel, 35/70 euro (SuperSaver/standard flexible) Basel-Geneva, 28 euro Geneva-Lyon & Cahors-Paris 38/79 (discounted/standard flexible) euro. Eurail pass for Benelux-France-Switzerland (5 travel days within 2 months + 1 free travel day) will cost you 329 euro (658 euro for both of you) and essential bonus here is that it's for the travel in 1st class, not 2nd. The only compulsory reservations you'll encounter is TGV Lille-Strasbourg & InterCites Cahors-Paris, both 9 euro per leg. This is pretty much it in case you can't/don't want to tie yourself to discounted non-exchangeable/non-refundable tickets

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: travel from prague to poprad and back
« on: April 03, 2016, 09:51:11 pm »
if we want to stop in Zilina for two days on the way back, do we have to buy 3 seperate tickets for every person (prague - poprad, poprad - zilina, zilina - prague)? or is it possible to buy a two way ticket prague-poprad and make a stop on the way?
Well, it is possible to purchase tickets, which will allow a stopover. However in your case it will be cheaper to go with 3 separate combinations of tickets (for CZ-SK & SK-CZ you can get discounted tickets, while for Poprad-Zilina just an ordinary Slovak domestic ticket either from ZSSK or RegioJet).
Just to give an example: a)RegioJet (discounted ticket for couchette 13,6 euro per passenger or 61,20 euro for all 5), then either ZSSK domestic Poprad-Zilina (26,24 euro for all if purchased via ZSSK website) or RegioJet Slovakia domestic (13,80 euro for all 5) and finally 30.04 Zilina-Prague (again 61,20 euro if you go with couchette); b) ticket Prague-Poprad-Prague allowing stopover (e.g. in Zilina) will cost you about 200 euro + you'll have to purchase separately couchette/sleeper reservations

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: train discounts for seniors
« on: April 03, 2016, 09:25:14 pm »
Also have to inquire about possibel copyright (though I cannot think of much against it).
Imho, no need. We'll just make a page about senior discount/cards from scratch and then you can take a look and give your suggestions/corrections ;)

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: train discounts for seniors
« on: April 03, 2016, 12:46:28 pm »
Thanks for the info arrivans. We've been thinking about making a separate page to list all those "seniors" discount on railways across Europe & posting it not even on the forum, but in the advice section of europetrainsguide.com

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: travel from prague to poprad and back
« on: April 03, 2016, 12:41:51 pm »
And there is even another train-operator on this route
Yep, we are aware, but for the overnight journeys RegioJet definitely wins, since it offers very cheap couchettes & sleepers as well as better schedule (with Leo it's no overnight option at all when traveling from Prague to Zilina and 3am dep. when going from Zilina to Prague)

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Can ONLY be issued together with a-expensive- INTernational ticket into Italy.
Hmm... maybe something changed over the recent years, but few years ago nobody asked for ticket across the border. But even so, it is always possible to buy something like cheap Sezana-Villa Opicina

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Actually I would use such tricky tickets only for domestic travels within Italy (not CZ-IT or PL-IT). I don't see any rule forbidding that. Am I missing anything?
No, no, by CZ-IT or PL-IT was meant not tickets from Czech Republic to Italy or Poland to Italy, but buying SCIC-NRT tickets for Italy in CZ or in PL.

one more question. Can cashiers "easily" issue a SCIC-NRT ticket with a custom routing?
Depends on what you meant by custom. For instance, everything you can "assemble" in idos can be bought at CD counter. But in case system can't find necessary combination of legs, then it won't be able to calculate the fare (= not possible to buy). Anyhow, in case you plan the journey via more or less major lines, then it shouldn't be a problem

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As far as I understand, I can get such tickets issued in another country as well, let's say Poland? They should accept my InKarta+Railplus, and have the same prices under SCIC-NRT tariff?
Well, if there is clearly stated that "RailPlus" is included (I think CD inKartas have the sign on the front side), then theoretically it shouldn't be a problem to purchase very same ticket in Poland. However from personal experience ticket cashiers in Poland (even at the central stations like Krakow or Warsaw) can know very little about tricky tickets (e.g. SCIC-NRT for Italy), so Polish cashiers reaction like "We don't sell such tickets" or "I don't know how to sell such ticket" unfortunately won't be a surprise.

I understand that the tariff varies according to the country where one travels.
Yes, each country creates km table with SCIC-NRT prices, sometimes they even give a list of most common routes (e.g. between various gr. stations or big city-capital). However in some exceptional cases there might be certain interstate agreements between the country where you want to travel and country where you purchase the ticket, in such cases tickets get sold cheaper than listed SCIC-NRT. But I don't think it's like this here, CZ-IT and PL-IT should be the same.

p.s. if you do try to purchase such ticket and later will have a moment, please post here how did it all went. thanks

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This is all nice in theory, but how is it in reality? Can I get such ticket issued in Czech Republic? 
Yes, it's absolutely not a problem. If you are afraid that Czech ticket cashier won't understand what you want, then you can simply print out idos ticket and show them what exactly you need.
Has anyone showed such a ticket to an Italian conductor?
Tried it myself few years ago, as far as you stay on regional trains there won't be any questions. Even in the SCIC-NRT rules (9.1.5.) it's directly written that only tickets issued by SNCF & TrenItalia need to be stamped & will be valid for 24 hours afterwards. If ticket is not issued by those two, then there is no rule about stamping/24 hours

... and it comes with annoying limitations (6 hours validity after validation).
In case of Venezia-Bologna it is indeed 6 hours (unless it's an e-ticket), but with journeys >200km it's 24 hours in most of the regions

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I bought tickets at MAV website for ticket from Budapest to Prague, I guess I will be in Budapest, so I can print ticket. I also bought ticket at MAV for tickets from Vienna to Budapest, so I guess that will be problem. I thought I will be in Vienna train station to print the ticket to Budapest.....I guess I was wrong. Thank you for pointing out. those tickets are non-refundable, right? I won't be able to use them, right?
If you plan is to travel Vienna-Budapest-Prague, thus meaning you won't be able to visit Hungary before your trip from Vienna to Budapest, then you indeed in trouble. Because you can't print MAV tickets using Austrian ticket machines, only Hungarian ones. In regards to refundability... well, once again it depends what type of ticket you've purchased. Is it 13 euro ones? Then it's non-refundable, but perhaps you can ask somebody in Hungary (not necessarily Budapest) to print your tickets & mail it to you? or even your Vienna hotel? This would solve the problem and you will be able to use your MAV's Vienna-Budapest ticket (=you won't any money)

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I googled, the nearest train station is called Rennweg. however, when I go to https://ticketing.oebb.at/inet/pub/en/ticket to buy tickets, I couldn't find Vienna Rennweg, I don't know if the train station should be Vienna, or Vienna city, or Vienne, some have little yellow green H square box in front of the train station, other have little blue white box, I don't understand the difference.
also when I search, there is no train availble for evening or afternoon, how is that possible? please help!
Trains to Budapest don't depart from minor stations in Vienna (there is more than a dozen of them), that is why trying to buy tickets from such minor stations causes issues. When you enter actual station from which trains to Budapest depart (e.g. Wien Hauptbahnhof or Wien Meidling), then you won't have any problems booking the tickets ;) 
Anyhow Ungargase/Rennweg is just a few  blocks away from Vienna Central train station (called Wien Hauptbahnhof or sometimes shortened to Wien Hbf.)

I was able to book the ticket from Vienna to Budapest at http://www.mavcsoport.hu/en website.
Did you read the note from Hungarian Railways website saying that:
Please note that home printing of international tickets is not possible. International tickets booked online must be collected at any of the Ticket Collection Points located at railway stations in Hungary before your journey. Passengers travelling without a collected ticket must purchase a new ticket on board and pay penalty. Will you be able to print your tickets in Hungary prior to boarding a train in Vienna?

i still need to book ticket from Salzburg to Vienna, for that, MAV website doesn't work. so I went back to OBB website https://ticketing.oebb.at/inet/pub/en/ticket, again, no train is available, how could that be possible? 
Have no idea how you searched it, but there are plenty of trains, both by Austrian Railways (OeBB) and private company WestBahn



I still have trouble understand what train station to enter, when i enter Salzburg, there are many different ones to choose from, I want the one at city center, but I don't understand which one to choose. also for Vienna
Just choose the main stations, that is Salzburg Hbf & Wien Hbf

About the ticket that bought this way, are they limited to board on specific train number/station? then how can I find the right train and station? can I find English speaking staff at train station?
Depends on the ticket type. If it's a discounted promo offer ticket, then it will be valid only for the specified day & train. If it's a standard full fare ticket, then it can be used on any train during the validity period. In regards to "right train station"... well you can look at the timetable and see from which station your train departs, in your case it will be mostly central/main stations. In Austria you will probably find someone who speaks English, in Hungary chances are somewhat lower

I also bought train tickets at DB, everything is in German, I don't know if the ticket said that there is specific number of train/station that I suppose to board,  but I can't understand a thing, now I am really worried if I can get everything correct
Exact departure station will be next to "Von", arrival next to "Nach". Conditions of your ticket will depend on the type: it can be "Normalpreis" (=standard full fare), "Sparpreis" (=discounted), Europa Spezial (=discounted international), etc. If it's for the fixed day & train, then it should be something like "Hinfahrt: your route & trains number"

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If it is too heavy, then you might have some problems lifting it up, but in terms of size even large suitcase (like 30") fit there

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1) Does the seated car have air-conditoner? Are the seats able to be reclined? And are the place to bath or shower? Will there be a place for my luggages?
Yes, it should be air-conditioned. No, shower is available only in certain sleeper carriages. Depends how big is your suitscase, for a normal size luggage there is enough place. Compartment will look something like this, you can see baggage shelf above the seats

2) For the couchette car for 4 seaters,is it air-conditioned? Are there place to bath or shower? Will there be a place for my luggages?
Yes, it is also air-conditioned. No shower. What concerns luggage, well if it's 4 people than you can use upper berth for your luggage, but in case it's 6 people in one compartment, then it can be a problem and you will be forced to keep your suitcase next to the window or even between the lower berths.

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