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General discussion => Train fares and tariffs => Topic started by: Livia on November 08, 2014, 07:15:47 am

Title: debrecen-lvov
Post by: Livia on November 08, 2014, 07:15:47 am
How much is the ticket debrecen-lvov and return, with sleeping cariagge of 3 places?
Canay I buy the ticket on line?
Title: Re: debrecen-lvov
Post by: tUt on November 08, 2014, 11:31:18 am
How much is the ticket debrecen-lvov and return
International return ticket Debrecen-Lviv (2nd class) will cost you 47 euro (or half that for one-way), obviously only when bought in Hungary or Ukraine.
with sleeping cariagge of 3 places?
As of now, 3 bed sleeper reservation Debrecen-Lviv is 12 euro (UZ carriage), but there is information that Russia will cancel (after schedule change in December) their #15 train with which Ukrainian and Russian carriages to Budapest run. Thus situation isn't clear yet what will happen with direct carriages running from Hungary to Ukraine and Russia.

Canay I buy the ticket on line?
No, MAV (Hungarian Railways) doesn't sell tickets to Ukraine online. However in case you really want to have your tickets in advance, you can always purchase online two domestic tickets: a) from Debrecen to Zahony (last station before the border), from 2200 HUF and b) from Chop (first Ukrainian station after the border) to Lviv, here prices start from roughly 2 euro. For the short (15 min.) trip across the border from Zahony to Chop tickets (2,7 euro one-way) are easily bought on spot before departure. As you can see, buying two domestic tickets and one short cross-border one can save you quite a lot of money compared to international ticket price, so if you ok with train changes it might be a good solution
Title: Re: debrecen-lvov
Post by: Maxy on November 08, 2014, 09:51:57 pm
How much is the ticket debrecen-lvov and return
International return ticket Debrecen-Lviv (2nd class) will cost you 47 euro (or half that for one-way), obviously only when bought in Hungary or Ukraine.
with sleeping cariagge of 3 places?
As of now, 3 bed sleeper reservation Debrecen-Lviv is 12 euro (UZ carriage), but there is information that Russia will cancel (after schedule change in December) their #15 train with which Ukrainian and Russian carriages to Budapest run. Thus situation isn't clear yet what will happen with direct carriages running from Hungary to Ukraine and Russia.

Canay I buy the ticket on line?
No, MAV (Hungarian Railways) doesn't sell tickets to Ukraine online. However in case you really want to have your tickets in advance, you can always purchase online two domestic tickets: a) from Debrecen to Zahony (last station before the border), from 2200 HUF and b) from Chop (first Ukrainian station after the border) to Lviv, here prices start from roughly 2 euro. For the short (15 min.) trip across the border from Zahony to Chop tickets (2,7 euro one-way) are easily bought on spot before departure. As you can see, buying two domestic tickets and one short cross-border one can save you quite a lot of money compared to international ticket price, so if you ok with train changes it might be a good solution
In general I almost agree with the answer the only minor correction - international ticket Debrecen - Chop is cheaper (it costs ~8,4 EUR) then domestic Debrecen - Zahony + internaltional Zahony - Chop.
Of course inernational ticket Debrecen - Chop is not purchasable online. But if you want to buy whatever in advance for section Debrecen - Zahony (for example to be sure you'll be able to travel in IC) - you can buy online just seat reservation (without ticket) for IC for section Debrecen - Zahony (or Debrecen - Nyiregyhaza depending on the section on which IC will be used) and use it with ticket Debrecen - Chop which you'll buy on spot before departure.
Title: Re: debrecen-lvov
Post by: Maxy on November 19, 2014, 09:24:06 am
but there is information that Russia will cancel (after schedule change in December) their #15 train with which Ukrainian and Russian carriages to Budapest run. Thus situation isn't clear yet what will happen with direct carriages running from Hungary to Ukraine and Russia.
situation already more or less clear.
Direct car Kyiv - Budapest will operate but with other trains in absolutely other departure/arrival hours
http://www.mav-start.hu/res/ic_34_33_latorca_15.pdf
With new timetable it's quite senseless for usage between Hungary and Lviv.

Title: Re: debrecen-lvov
Post by: tUt on November 19, 2014, 12:25:52 pm
situation already more or less clear.
It's not yet December, but MAV already started listing new timetable  ;D

Direct car Kyiv - Budapest will operate but with other trains in absolutely other departure/arrival hours
Weird decision from MAV and UZ, they basically reorient the connection from being favorable to Ukrainians (primary passengers for those carriages). Way to go for Wizzair...
With new timetable it's quite senseless for usage between Hungary and Lviv
With this new schedule it's kind of strange to see direct sleeping carriages Budapest-Lviv at all, pure inertia I guess. If UZ had any RIC seating carriages, then maybe it made some sense to have this sort of daytime European style connection, but do so with WLABm  ???