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First question:

Quote from: filu on December 11, 2011, 06:09:53 pm
Sturovo Budapest (Mnohostranna -26) ca 12 eur
Kind of forced choice in cases when you can't hop off somewhere in Slovakia and buy it there.

---> Can't we buy this ticket also directly in Bohumin? Jizdenka cz gives this option... And it's You who suggested earlier in this topic to buy this ticket in Bohumin :-) Even the priintscreen is attached :-)

Second:

Quote from: filu on December 11, 2011, 06:09:53 pm
Bohumin Sturovo (TCV two-way) ca 46 eur
Purchase CityStar CD-ZSSK here, it is sold for one passenger and cost only 40 EUR

---> Jizdenka says CityStar for this connection (one person) is 34 eur :-) What is the real price then? :-)

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Ok, I'd like to kinda come back to my former question in this subject, as we're heading to Bosnia again, but this time we get there a bit different way... (We don't know the exact date so unfortunately I don't rely on any SPAR offers).

My girlfriend (<26, without railplus) starts in Gdansk in the morning and gets with Polish TLK to Bohumin via Warsaw and Katowice (she's <26 Polish student so she pays only around 10 eur to the Czech border + TCV Zebrzydowice(Gr)- Bohumin for 1,80... Analogically on the way back.

Me (>26, with railplus) travelling from Strasbourg (!!) meeting her in Poland (most probably Katowice as I want to stop for a moment in Wroclaw). Timetables related to Quer-Durch-Land or Shoenes Wochenende ticket are not good for me (I want to board her train in Katowice at 0:00 and I don't want to take another day off from work in Strasbourg). Thus, unfortunately, with no days fixed enough to get nice sparpreis, I'm thinking about buying INTERRAIL GLOBAL (I can buy it as a French resident, and I live just at the border) 5/10 days, 270 eur.

Return trip technically the same route.

Then starting from Bohumin, I guess we'll buy these tickets for her:

In Bohumin:
Bohumin Sturovo (TCV two-way) ca 46 eur
Sturovo Budapest (Mnohostranna -26) ca 12 eur

In Budapest:
Budapest Sarajevo* (TCV two way with large discount) ca 53* eur

*We're planning to stay for couple of days in Mostar, not in Sarajevo, and get to Ploce just for one day just to see our colleague and the sea (arr at noon, dep in the evening). So in fact it's Budapest-Sarejevo(1night)-Ploce(5h)-Mostar(longer)-Budapest) Should we buy our tickets from Budapest only to Sarajevo or directly to Mostar or Ploce or break them somewhere? Will it be cheaper? Are the breaks allowed in this case?

Please correct me if I'm wrong or it's not the best way, what I've described above :)

Thanks in advance and have a very nice day :-)

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Poland-Macedonia two way (Wroclaw-Skopje)
« on: November 22, 2011, 06:15:58 pm »
The Beograd-Skopje offer is "Macedonia-Special". Thus it's not a direct discount from the TCV. I'm not sure we can make stops on it's way then. I remember there was a similar issue with the 'Beograd-Special', but I'm not sure.

We'd like to stop in Nis and Vranje on the way.

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: SLOVENIA - making stops with return tickets
« on: November 21, 2011, 05:50:33 pm »
I've actually simplified my question here as I did not stay overnight in Pragersko but in Ptuj and then I was returning to Pragersko and continuing in the morning but this part (Pragersko-Ptuj return) was easy for me ;)


SO that's what I've done (all the tickets return weekend 30% discount):


Zidani Most - Celje (with stop in Lasko, stop marked at the ticket office in Lasko)

Celje - Maribor (with stop in Pragersko and immediate change for Pragersko - Ptuj - Pragersko route then continuing Pragersko - Maribor the next day; no stop marked on the ticket in Pragersko as the office was closed both times I was there)

Pragersko - Ptuj

Then one way IC reservations... :)

Sat: Celje - Ptuj
Sun: Ptuj - Maribor (actually only the Ptuj-Pragersko was IC; the train Pragersko - Maribor was ICS (earlier) or local (later). The controller in ICS was very nice and allowed me to ride ICS with the IC supplement instead of waiting one hour longer for the local train)

So reservations did not really match the tickets which caused a bit of confusion for both the cashier and ticket inspectors but everything was fine and legal :)

Once again many thanks :-)

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: SLOVENIA - making stops with return tickets
« on: November 17, 2011, 05:40:01 pm »
Cool I've got another reply now:

For the local ticket inside of Slovenija :

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Travel interruption
You may interrup your journey once in either direction and you must validate your ticket as soon as you exit the train at the station where your journey has ended . An interrupted journey does not extend the validty of a ticket. At the station where your journey ends you may ask for a refund for a fully valid or partially used ticket.

-----

Thanks anyway :-)

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: SLOVENIA - making stops with return tickets
« on: November 17, 2011, 10:11:33 am »
Thanks,

Our plan is:

LP Zidani Most - Lasko
LP Lasko - Celje
IC Celje - Pragersko

then the next day (Sunday)

(LP or ICS) Pragersko - Maribor
(IC or ICS) Maribor - Zidani Most

Using ICS's on Sunday would give us a little bit more time in Maribor but I'm wondering if it's worth the price.

So as I understand if we don't use ICS then we just buy IC return ticket Zidani Most - Maribor (11,88 eur) and then just single ICS supplements if needed.

Just for fun, here is the reply I got from SI... (question copied from this forum). It doesnt really say much :-)

Hellow,
For your trip, you can buy a ticket:
Zidani most - Celje one way normal price is 2,44€ and
Celje - Maribor - Zidani most stop at Pragersko, retour ticket 30% discount 8,58€ for one person.
Best regards!

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Train fares and tariffs / SLOVENIA - making stops with return tickets
« on: November 16, 2011, 01:34:20 pm »
Sorry, this question can be a bit too 'local' but maybe someone knows the answer... I still did not get any reply from the Slovenian Railways.

Me and my friend are visiting Slovenia this weekend. We would like to use 30% discount on weekend return connections offer. 
However, some details are not clear at their website:

1. Can we make stops on our way?

We would like to travel on Zidani Most - Maribor line and stop at each of those places listed:

On Saturday:         Zidani Most - Lasko - Celje - Pragersko (overnight stay here, then continue next day)
On Sunday:           Pragersko - Maribor - Zidani Most.

Can we simply buy only one return ticket Zidani Most -Maribor -Zidani Most ?
Can we buy an IC return ticket and use LP/RG trains with this ticket?
Or buy ICS return ticket and use IC, LP trains also? (this can be complicated due to compulsory reservation in ICS)
 

This would save us money and time comparing to buying short distance single tickets.

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Train fares and tariffs / TCV tariffs per country
« on: September 28, 2011, 01:48:53 pm »
Hello,

I was wondering, how are the TCV prices calculated?

I guess it's like sum of (NumberOfKms)*(TCVfarePerKm) for all the countries the ticket runs through. Of course the fare per km is different for different countries and for some it's linear (Czech) and for some not (Poland).

I'm just looking at the example of Poland. For all the routes I've compared (I've checked internal routes in Poland with jizdenka) the TCV is approximately the price of IC/EX/EIC trains (most expensive), where the trip one would normally do with twice cheaper and and just slightly slower TLK

Is the TCV is established per km per country as the most expensive / fastest possible train fare per number of kms?


I was wondering if there's any document onliine with the TCV tariffs per kilometer (or for various distances if not linear) for different countries?

I'd be also interested in the SET.

Thanks,

Filip.

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Poland-Macedonia two way (Wroclaw-Skopje)
« on: August 23, 2011, 09:20:38 pm »
Thank You,

I guess it will not make a difference if we go through Mladenovac and come back through Mala Krsna? Trains run on different branches between Beograd and Velika Plana.

And, if we want to make a break somewhere on the way, do we need to inform the officer about it so he can note something on the ticket?


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Train fares and tariffs / Poland-Macedonia two way (Wroclaw-Skopje)
« on: August 23, 2011, 07:15:00 pm »
Hello :-)

After our succesful trip around SCG, we're planning to visit Macedonia soon. Thus question how to get there cheap. Because of Your help :-), we know now how to get to Beograd cheaply.  We'll try to do as follows:

1. Sparscheine to Budapest  (Warszawa-Budapest 29eur or Praha-Budapest 19eur + local tickets wrom Wroclaw to Katowice or Pardubice) or if we fail then Citystar Bohumin-Budapest (+local trains from Wroclaw). Local, as we have 51% discount in Poland.

2. For Budapest-Skopje branch (we'd like to stop in Subotica, Beograd and Nis for at least couple of hours), should we simply get reurn Budapest-Beograd then Beograd-Skopje or Return for the whole?

Thanks :-)

FiIip.


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We've just come back from "Around Serbia and Montenegro" holiday. Main route to get there was Wroclaw-Pardubice-Budapest-Subotica two-way.

Tickets -  we managed to get the Prague-Budapest Sparscheine (19 eur one way) and Pardubice-Wroclaw we did on local tickets: (all prices one way per person: 51% Regio -  Polish student discount Wroclaw-miedzylesie (2.5eur) + Cross border (1eur) + Group ticket for 2 Lichkov-Pardubice (2.5 eur)  +  Budapest-Subotica we did on TCV return 60% off. (15eur per person return). ZS/ZCG local tickets only (Serbia/Montenegro borders we're crossed hitchhiking both ways). I believe that was the best deal.

Just some remarks:

1. ISIC student card DOES NOT give any discount anymore both on ZS znd ZCG. This is replaced with new cards, available only for Serbian/Montenegrin students. (confirmed by various offcials and rulebooks)

2. Except trains departing from their starting point, All the trains (ZS/ZCG) except one were late. Extreme cases were Beograd-Bar, which we wanted to take in Mojkowac - 5h. Zvecan-Kraljevo - 4h, as around 11pm the diesel broke in the woods of Ibar Valley and we arrived in Kraljevo around 3am (another loco came long way to haul us).

3. Some trains from online timetables which we had printed both for ZS and ZCG were rescheudled or cancelled and they were only corrected by handwriting or stickers at the stations but not online :-( On ZS website they are now correct, but still not on the ZCG Bijelo Polje - Bar full line timetable.

3. In Serbia, when buying tickets on board , in all cases except one, the inspectors did not sell any form of ticket, just charged 50-75% of the ticket price. No such case occured at ZCG.

4. That beograd-Bar railway is beautiful, everyone knows. I can absolutely recommend the aforementioned Ibar Valley on the Kraljevo-Zvecan branch. Trains are slow so there's a lot of time to watch :-)

After all,those timetable/punctuality related problems did not really affected our trip, and we're still in love of train travelling :)

Thanks for any help :-)

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: MAV international tickets
« on: July 18, 2011, 01:38:56 pm »
Both my cards (French Visa and Polish Electron) are seem to be not accepted.

After the window which says (all in Hungarian) "Fill the fields", I put the card number, CVV code and so on. I click "send", then I get the white screen saying "Sorry banking system is not available please try again later. And that's for the whole day.

There is no field to specify the card issuing country....

Did it work for someone?

Filip.

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Mhmm, strange...

In both cases (IC and PR), I was simply buying a student ticket, then showing the ISIC. In most cases talk wasn't really necessary (my French friends did it once on their own). But the truth is that the ISIC looks really similar to Polish student card, so maybe the personnel doesn't often waste time on checking details. (non-ISIC international student cards were usually automatically rejected)

By the way, any student discount on PKP is valid only until 25 years old. I'm 27 now, and only once someone checked the birth date on my ID. Illegal? Right, but saving 51% of the price while crossing large distances... After all, I've paid the difference (+1,5eur for any in-train ticket operation, except if there is no counter at the station) and said I just didn't know (which was actually true back then :-) )

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Ok I did not make myself clear :-)

"Small trips" don't really include mainline trains but branch lines and buses (in fact much more buses than trains, so any "pass" will not pay off). In fact, between Subotica and Bar on my way "there", I'll use only the Novi Sad-Belgrade part by the mainline train, so I think we can forget the round-trip ticket too. I guess the "c" version You proposed is a good one for me. (except if I'm lucky and I still get the 19eur Budapest-Praha)

Ticket

I'm Polish, so 51% ISIC always works for me perfectly both in PKP-IC and PKP-PR :-)

However You're right. This ISIC discount in Poland (the same one as for normal Polish students), works only for Polish citizens studying abroad, thus I need to show 3 documents: ISIC card, student card of foreign university, and a document proving Polish nationality. BUT :-) So many times I was buying this ticket for my foreign friends (just visiting Poland) and really really rarely anyone wanted anything more than just the ISIC and it was ok. Sometimes they were just saying next time we should but the full fare (but still ok), and only twice (per dozen maybe) we had to pay the difference between the student and full fare plus the usual 1,5eur fee for the ticket bought in train (per group, not per person as in Czech). Ticket officers just seem not to know or care too often.

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Ok once again change of plans sorry :)

A. It's only me who travels by train (no change here)
B. I will start my trip in Budapest (until that point my journey is already paid, rest I need to cover myself)
C. I will come back from Bar (Montenegro) to Wroclaw (Poland)

So that's what I need:

A.Budapest-Subotica
(then various local trips in Serbia and Montenegro)
B.Bar(Montenegro)-Wroclaw (Poland) within a month. (I'd avoid pre-booked offers due to uncertainty in exact return dates)

Here is wqhat I have:
A.Railplus
B.30% ISIC discount on local trains in Monteneg and Serbia
C.51% discount in Poland (ISIC)

So that's what I guess...

Correct me if I'm wrong :-)

1. Budapest Subotica bought in Budapest TCV-two-way with 60% reduction gives 15 eur two way right?
(now various local trips until I arrive in Bar...)
2. On Bar-Belgrade I'd like to stop couple of times (for Bilelo Polje - Uzice, I could easily buy TCV as those are two "closest to the border" stations where I will stip) so the best idea is to use local tickets + TCV for my cross-border (Bilelo Polje-Uzice) train?
3. Belgrade - Subotica local ticket (or better make it Bar-Subotica TCV?)
4. Subotica-Budapest already paid in point 1.
5. Budapest-Wroclaw one way? Any easier idea for not using "domestic" tickets? (can be thru Bohumin or Lichkov)

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