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Is worth the CityStar Slovakia option worth considering?
It was reported that CityStar <1500km this year costs 114 euro, 2/3 reservation Bratislava-Moscow is 32 euro, so from Kosice or nearby it should be roughly 26-28 euro

1. Oradea- Suceava- Moscow (train 60 "Bulgaria Express" - however, the arrival time in  Moscow does not suits my needs)
Well, maybe easiest solution would be just get off in Kyiv, take a walk and then catch one of the overnight trains? Arrival would be in the morning and you'll lose not that much by buying two reservation (Suceava-Kyiv and Kyiv-Moscow) instead of one straight Suceava-Moscow.

Can you please tell me if there are any cheaper solutions, other than tickets to the border and domestic ones?
Without use of cheap Ukrainian domestic tickets it is hardly possible to travel cheaper. And even with such tickets you have to go with interstate UZ-RZD one and even for the third class (platskartnyj) it's more than 40 euro (one-way) from the border to Moscow, thus it all adds up to be quite expensive even with ticket break tricks. You want to travel only by train? If not, then probably cheapest option would be to catch WizzAir flight Budapest to Moscow (one way tickets start from only 7790 HUF or app. 25 euro). Oradea to Budapest, as you probably know yourself, is very easy and pretty cheap

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...specially concerning the trains being in fact direct or not
Well, de-facto Budapest to Krakow overnight connection is served by through carriages, thus yes it's direct, but it's just couple carriages which actually get reattached from one train to another. For passengers these nuances aren't important, but still just makes sense to know that is is not a full scale train. Similar story with Krakow to Prague, it's also couple through carriages

I was wondering if someone could indicate me the best and cheapest links to book these trains?
In such cases official website of rail companies is the most reliable place to buy the tickets + for sure the cheapest, since rail companies (MAV & PKP) doesn't charge any extra fee. With Hungary (MAV) everything is very easy - just go to their website and buy the tickets you need (our website even has a step by step guide on how to do it). Discounted tickets Budapest-Krakow for 6 berth couchette start from only 39 euro per passenger, 3 bed sleepers from 45 euro. However remember since it's discounted tickets the number of it is limited per each departure, so it makes sense to buy it in advance (tickets sale starts 60 days in advance)
With Krakow to Prague everything is more complicated, since Polish Railways (PKP) doesn't yet sell tickets like Krakow-Prague online, so you can buy them only in Poland. If it's not an option for you, then there is always a number of agencies, which can serve as a intermediary, although they definitely will charge you extra and for sure not as reliable as actual rail companies running the trains

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: SCIC-SET
« on: February 16, 2014, 10:31:32 pm »
Thanks a lot rasha. SET tariff info is among the most "hidden" ones, so the table is indeed really useful

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Could anyone please advise should I go for the pass or just buy individual tickets eg Supersaver Tickets?
Answer depends on destinations (beside Basel, Paris and Groningen you've mentioned) you plan to visit and your age (because France+Switzerland 10 days during 2 months Eurail youth pass is 385 euro (meaning travel day value is 38,5 euro), while same adult pass is already 549 euro (54,9 euro daily value)).

Now let's compare it with the journeys you intend to take. Trip from Geneve to Basel can cost you as low as 36,6 CHF (app. 30 euro) one way (return is twice that), so if you want to travel Geneva-Basel-Geneva in one travel day using one of the days from your 10 day pass will be cheaper, but if you travel Geneva-Basel and Basel-Geneva during different days - discounted SuperSaver tickets are cheaper.
Obviously SuperSaver tickets price depends on distance, so when choosing between pass vs. point-to-point just think about how far in Switzerland you want to travel and whether journeys will be daytrips there and back or you prefer to stay somewhere overnight. As rule, for long there & back trip during one day pass might work better, but with shorter trips done on separate days supersavers will win.

With Paris to Geneve it's possible to travel for as low as 35 euro one way or 60 euro return. So here discounted tickets bit any your pass in any case (especially since for the pass holders it will be necessary to purchase additional seat reservation, meaning +10 euro per trip). While with Geneve-Groningen route where you'll have to change trains multiple times & no "direct" discounted ticket available pass will for sure bit discounted tickets, even if it's 54,9 euro daily pass value

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Lvov to Vienna by train
« on: February 03, 2014, 11:43:55 am »
It seems the most direct route is from Lvov to bratislava, for which I can't find schedules or timetables online, and then a short train from bratislava to Vienna that leaves every hour. I checked uz.gov.ua for information, but t doesn't recognize "bratislava" under destination.
Well, you need to look for this connection in a bit specific way :) There is an everyday direct through carriages from Moscow to Bratislava via Lviv (dep. from Lviv 21:14, arr. to Bratislava 14:05). However there are few obstacles against choosing this option: a) since it's a transit train, tickets from Lviv to Bratislava are difficult to obtain (it used to be that in advance wasn't possible at all, so passengers had to wait until before departure, which isn't very great idea); b) going via Slovakia geographically indeed shortest way, but it's not very cheap (one-way tariff between Ukraine and Slovakia aren't super good), plus in travel time going via Budapest is actually faster and you can be in Vienna already at 14

Another route could be through Budapest. Any suggestions?
Yep, going via Hungary is an option. You start from Lviv on the same 21:14 train (here there are Ukrainian carriages, so in advance ticket purchase is possible) and can arr. to Vienna either at 14 or 16 (for earlier arrival you'll have to make an extra train change). Going via Hungary (as well as via Slovakia) can be done rather cheaply in case you go for a small tariff trick - first purchase domestic Ukrainian ticket from Lviv to Chop (last Ukrainian station before Hungary/Slovakia), then short cross border ticket Chop-Zahony (in case you go via Hungary) or Chop-Cierna nad Tisou (for going via Slovakia) and then domestic Hungarian (Zahony-Budapest) or Slovak (Cierna-Bratislava) ticket.
Totally different option would be to go via Poland (Krakow-Katowice), meaning dep. from Lviv late evening and arr. to Vienna afternoon the next day. However here again you'll have to make couple changes + going via Poland is also not very cheap (mainly because of expensive Krakow-Vienna international ticket)

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Munich-Prague-Wrocław-Berlin
« on: January 18, 2014, 01:29:18 pm »
Ok I'll check more on the Alx trains closer to the date when they get updated on https://www.cd.cz/eshop/ as right now they don't go out as far as May.  Looking at similar travel times on Saturdays in Feb look like they are running about 26€ for the direct train.  So will just need to check back when they have May up
Ticket sales generally start 60 days in advance, but Czech discounted self-printed tickets are a bit tricky. Majority of such tickets aren't valid unless stamped by CD conductor/official, thus for instance it's impossible to travel Vienna-Prague with Czech eTicket bought via CD eShop, because there is no way to find Czech conductor in Austria. Meaning that you can't use Czech self-printed international eTickets unless you can stamp them in Czech Republic. Official formulation of this rule is "It is necessary to have an international ticket stamped by a ČD conductor or at a ČD ticket counter prior to crossing the international border."
However (and it came as a surprise, since it wasn't there before) Czech Railways also add that "This condition does not apply to journeys to Germany.", so judging from this note it means that passengers indeed can purchase Czech discounted self-printed ticket via eShop and travel route like Munich-Prague without Czech stamp. Although maybe before purchasing it will make sense to email CD and make sure it's indeed what it means, 100% assurance from CD will definitely close the question.

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Munich-Prague-Wrocław-Berlin
« on: January 15, 2014, 07:08:39 pm »
So if I were to take the train from Munich to Prague then, what is the price range for that?  Also will I have to change trains in either Nürnberg or Plzen?  So far all I'm seeing is a combination of the train and bus changing in Nürnberg.
There are a couple direct ALX trains per day (e.g. 4:55-10:44, 9:01-14:44 etc. DB website shows the schedule), standard fare is 69 euro, however with this category of trains it's possible to use Bavaria-Bohemia tickets. For one passenger Bavaria-Bohemia tickets is just 25 euro and it can be used from Munich to Plzen. While from Plzen to Prague it's possible to buy second ticket from CD eShop (from 95 CZK), better to buy for the same Munich-Prague train and as result you won't even need to get of in Plzen, but just have two seperate tickets - one for Munich-Plzen leg and other one for Plzen-Prague

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: SCIC-NRT tickets valid for 15 days only
« on: January 15, 2014, 12:55:47 am »
Some of you probably noticed that the validity of NRT tickest was lowered from 1 month to 15 days.
Unfortunately this very dumb decision was indeed made by some officials...

In Hungary some tickets based on SCIC-NRT tariff, but with special reductions between 2 countries continue to be valid for 1 month. These are reduced fare tickets to Slovakia, Croatia, probably Romania, Serbia, Ukraine as well
Well, yes tickets like "Beograd Spezial" or "Zagreb Spezial" were not effected, probably since it's specific interstate agreements. Btw, Hungary to Ukraine it's East-West (SCIC-EWT), didn't check this one in real life, but I think it wasn't effected either.

It would be nice to know if there are any other exceptions from the rule anywhere in Europe!
Honestly, a bit busy at the time, so didn't have a chance to check all the countries yet. But logical guess would be that in cases where countries/rail companies had previous agreements (like mentioned spezial tickets to/from Hungary) everything should have stayed as before. Would try to do it in a next couple weeks and come back to this topic

I'm particularly interested in the City-Star to Russia
CityStar? From Hungary it was not available even before. Or you meant Slovakia-Russia (ZSSK-RZD) via Ukraine? This one survived, still one month validity, but got a bit more expensive

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Munich-Prague-Wrocław-Berlin
« on: January 15, 2014, 12:40:12 am »
First DB bus departs at 8:00 arrives at 12:39.
Besides buses that DB runs, there is also a number of other companies, so it's possible to start even earlier than 8am ;)

I would thought that users of the EuropeTRAINSguide.com forum need no convincing why is it better the travel by train, than by bus, but here is a reminder: trains are more comfortable, safer, sustainable.
Well, not everybody would choose train if it's more expensive or travel time by bus is less (both things happen time to time). It just some people aren't among those weirdos (like us) who would prefer to travel by train no matter what  ;D And it's totally understandable, we are always ready to help anyways, even if it's about buses, ferries, airplanes etc.

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Munich-Prague-Wrocław-Berlin
« on: January 15, 2014, 12:32:57 am »
I was hearing that there is a bus that is pretty direct that is a lot quicker than taking the train.
Well, there are a number of bus companies on the route from Munich to Prague (EuroLines, Student Agency, DB), but fastest bus travel time is 4:39 min., others have 5+ hours, thus buses aren't essentially faster. 
I am just curious how long and how much the train is compared to the bus.
Fastest (DB buses) cost at least 29 euro (tickets can be bought via DB website), while for EuroLines (Touring Bohemia) there are sometimes promo offers and if you lucky it's possible to travel for as cheap as 9 euro (although more often promo would be like 19)


Seems www.cd.cz isn't showing me any possible trains for leaving on a Tues morning between these two cities.  Am I missing something?
No direct trains here already for many years, however Czech Railways offer ok options with change (in Pardubice, Ústí n.Orlicí/Lichkov), for instance 5:39-10:58 or 7:52-13:38. Plus via CD eShop it will be just 479 CZK, which is a good price for a train.
Another site I saw the price was horrible (2,806 kr) which seems way to crazy to be correct.
No way, even full fare bought in Prague before departure is just 32 euro (app.900 CZK), so 2800 CZK is a scam from some agency or crazy resellers. 

need to change in Katowice which I don't want to do.
Going via Katowice is possible, but definitely not reasonable
I found one bus http://jizdnirady.idnes.cz/vlakyautobusymhdvse/spojeni/, but I can't seem to view the prices.
It's not just one bus, available already mentioned EuroLines, then also Alambus and finally cheapest (if bought in advance) PolskiBus.


Though I'm not able to view the pricing of that.
You can see prices (both standard & discounted) + buy tickets via DB website 
Maybe there is a bus as well? polskibus  doesn't seem to have a connection between these two cities however, so not sure if there is another bus option at all.
PolskiBus goes from Poznan, so you can travel Wroclaw-Poznan first (bus or train) and then catch PolskiBus or SimpleExpress to Berlin. However there are also direct buses from Wroclaw to Berlin - for instance EuroLines

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Kiwiline, there is an old problem with such connections when booking anything else than seats (e.g. sleepers or couchettes). The case is that OeBB website in Austria-Poland routes sells tickets only for seating carriages, while in case of Vienna-Krakow overnight connection there are actually just two carriages (one sleeper and one couchette) attached to Vienna-Warsaw #406 train, thus OeBB website can't sell you anything for 10pm departure. Solutions for you might be as follows:
a) simply contact OeBB directly via contact form and order you tickets using other booking channel. OeBB can either mail it to you by regular mail (extra +5 euro) or you can pick up ticket once already in Austria. Also possible to contact OeBB by phone
b) go with daytime trains. There are no direct ones to Krakow during the day, but a few connections go via nearby Katowice (tickets, including discounted, can be bought online for connection Vienna-Krakow, thus you will need just make an easy change and nothing else)

p.s. also bringing your attention that according to OeBB with Austria-Poland connections "Children up to their 15th birthday travel free of charge, if they are accompanied by their parents/grandparents"

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We will be looking out for overnight buses/trains so we can save on accomodation.
For the overnight journey trains aren't really an option here (unless you ready to make changes and overpay), with buses you do have a chance to catch a sort of overnight one, but since distance is not very long (meaning relatively short travel time) it will be only half decent overnight trip (like 01:05am - 6:30am with Student Agency bus)
Hopefully there are overnights as well.
Well, here travel time is even shorter, so you best chance of more or less overnight journey is again Student Agency bus with schedule 23:00-3:05


We are re-thinking this after some of our friends raised concerns about driving in winter. 
Germany isn't the worth place to drive, so unless it will be some force majeure case, roads should be fine, but on the other hand DB rail passes also give a good level flexibility + no need to worry about parking, finding right turns etc.



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I'm especially interested in the suggestion that the crossing at Beremend is restricted to locals.
Well, before it was clearly written regarding this border crossing that it is "međudržavni (=interstate) granični cestovni prijelaz II. kategorije", but now rechecked and it seems that something had changed, since nowadays it is already listed as "Stalni granični prijelazi za međunarodni (=international) promet putnika". With "interstate" crossing obviously it's only for Hungarians/Croatians, while with "international" it's for everybody. Anyways, we suggest you simply to email Croatian/Hungarian border guards and directly ask whether citizen with other passport can cross the border at that border crossing.

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We will be getting the 2-day flexi pass to save on the trip up to Jungfraujoch. It will cost us around 124 Euros for the pass
Well, Swiss Railways (SBB) sell special discounted tickets called SuperSaver (can be purchased 14 days before the journey), in case of Zurich to Interlaken trip SuperSaver tickets start from just 24,6 CHF (app.20 euro) per person). Also can get one from Interlaken to lake Constance (meaning as a part of your Interlaken-Munich trip)
The trip to Munich will cost us 25 Euros.
Here meant paying for German part of the trip Interlaken-Munich, right? For Swiss one you intend to use the pass?
We intend to get the Lander ticket for a day trip to Neuschwenstein castle. Another 25 Euros each.
Why each? Bavaria Lander Ticket for two passengers cost 26 euro (when purchased online or via DB ticket machine)
On the 6th night in Europe after Munich, we will take a overnight bus to Vienna, arriving at 0600 for a day of sightseeing. This will cost 36 Euros.
Honestly, this is a bit rough, with rail options you can get discounted 29 euro (per passenger) tickets for fast (<4 hours) day time train
At the end of the day, we will depart for Prague by bus at 2240. We will reach at 0330.
Again, you sure you want to arrange the journey this way, especially since it will be second night in a row withou bed? Maybe more comfortable will be to catch evening train (discounted tickets from 29 euro per person) or bus and spend a night already in Prague. Or spend a night in Vienna and then take morning train/bus to Prague
Following that, we will depart for Nuremberg in the morning at 0700 by bus, and arrive at 1030.
Between Prague and Nuremberg operate couple bus companies (DB ExpressBus, Student Agency, EuroLines), so we suggest to you check all of them and see which one offers better fares for the time and date you wantl

Here is where we will get rent a car for 158 Euros (a person) for the duration of 6 days. During this 6 days, we will be spending time in Stuttgart and Bruges.
158 euro is obviously a good price, but an alternative for German part can be just to go with Lander Tickets and Quer-durchs-Land-Ticket/Schönes-Wochenende-Ticket

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Trip to Bohemian Paradise
« on: December 12, 2013, 12:06:36 am »
Which place would you say is more interesting?
You mean Teplice nad Metuji or Adrspach? Honestly, never visiting both, so hard to say :) But they are so close (~10 min.) that it doesn't really matter which one to choose as a base or starting point, thus might be a good idea first to consider accommodation options and make your choice depending on that

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