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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Best Way to use my eurail select pass
« on: June 14, 2013, 06:06:03 pm »
you cannot use Thalys with that pass.
Arrivans, are you sure? It seems that both Eurail & Interrail are still valid for Thalys, at least Thalys website confirms it

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...or in Russia likely also the provodnitsa, is allowed by law to sell these places to someone wanting to travel last-minute. CAN-does not perse mean will.
Indeed, but as far as I remember it's not "provodnitsa", but only "trainmaster" (=head of the train) can officially sell tickets and allocates passengers. And nowadays it happens on extremely rare occasions, so, imho, chances to get in such situation are really low

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All other train travel questions / Re: Where to buy Balkan Flexipass
« on: June 14, 2013, 05:51:33 pm »
2.as there is the special 1way fare for just 15/16 eur-pay in HUF for BP-all the way to Beograd, this is also the cheapest way to reach Subotica-so there is no real need to get off there and buy BFP. Stay on to Beograd and have plenty of time.
Well, regular one-way ticket Budapest-Subotica is 14,3 euro (when bought in Hungary or Serbia), so it's actually 70 cents cheaper than Budapest-Belgrade one ))) But to be serious, getting off in Subotica can make sense for those who intend to travel to Montenegro right away without stop in Belgrade, since change from 'Avala' to 'Panonija' is more convenient in Subotica compared to the option of catching the same train in Belgrade, where it will necessary to board it at Novi Beograd station instead of main station
You save hardly 1 eur by using local MAV ticket to border and cross on yourself or via Szeged-but loose plenty of hours. Just realistic thinking.
Agree that in terms of convenience neither Szeged or Kelebia+walking option are optimal, but in cases when someone needs to be in Subotica earlier than arrival of 'Avala' it's more or less the only options

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1.What is best train ticket options would suit to our itinerary ? Munich – Amsterdam – Paris
Well, between Munich and Amsterdam there is only one direct train - it is overnight CNL (CityNightLine) dep. 22:50 and arr. to Amsterdam 9:49. However at the same time it is also possible to travel quite easily during the day using high-speed ICE and InterCity trains, in this case at least one change will be required (although in Germany train changes are relatively easy and almost risk free, so nothing to worry about).
With Amsterdam to Paris it's even easier, since high-speed Thalys trains depart every two hours (or every hour during morning/evening peak times), so just slightly more than 3 hour journey and you are in Paris
2.Is Eurorail Pass recommended?
In cases like yours, and especially if you prefer rather fixed travel plans, we usually do not recommend buying Eurail pass, simply because it turns our to be more expensive. Let's just take a look at some number to see what we mean here -->
Great thing about many European rail companies is that they have a variety of tickets prices, as result passengers purchasing their tickets in advance (for instance right now for mid August) can enjoy discounted tariffs and pay much less compared to the normal standard fares. For instance, if you purchase your train tickets now then overnight journey from Munich to Amsterdam with mentioned above CNL train can cost your whole family as low as 168 euro (reclining seats), 218 euro (6 berth couchette compartment) or 383 euro (one three bed sleeper + another two bed sleeper). With daytime ICE+IC trains ticket as well can cost less than 200 euro for all 5
Similar discounted tickets available for Amsterdam to Paris with high-speed Thalys trains and can be as low as 135 euro for all 5 (35 euro per adults passengers and older child and 15 euro each for two younger children).
So at the end the whole itinerary Munich-Amsterdam-Paris can cost you like 300 euro for all 5 (or a bit more if you decide to use overnight train and couchette/sleepers accommodation), thus really doubt any pass (and especially Eurail) can beat this price. However you also need to remember that discounted tickets have some limitations - usually they are valid only for the specific date & train, plus can't be exchanged or refunded, it's a sort of price you pay for the discounted fares, so they might not suit travelers with possibility of plans change or spontaneity.

3.What station will be arrived in each city since we need to arrange hotel to the nearest ?
In Munich it will be main train station - München Hbf (Munich Hbf), in Amstedam - Amsterdam Centraal (=Central station) and in Paris - Gare du Nord (Paris-Nord station)

p.s. You can check timetable and purchase tickets for Munich to Amsterdam journey via official page of German Railways - bahn.de, same things for Amsterdam to Paris can be done via Thalys website (or French Railways website)

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Best Way to use my eurail select pass
« on: June 09, 2013, 01:01:39 pm »
Well, answer a lot depends on your itinerary and how many travel days you actually have with your Eurail Select Pass. Generally it's a good idea simply to list all the potential journeys you intend to take and if you can't cover all of them with you pass travel days, then you should check "cheapest"/shortest journeys on the list for which it's will be ok to buy regular full fare standard ticket instead of using travel day from your pass. Majority of standard fares you can find on official page of German Railways (DB) - bahn.de
Regarding issues with seat reservations you more or less have nothing to worry here, since Germany and Benelux countries almost don't have trains with obligatory seat reservations (should be purchased on top of the pass), as result you can just hop on/hop off on almost any train without need to think about reserving a seat. Seat reservations obligatory only for ICE Sprinter trains in Germany and for Thalys/Fyra high-speed trains in Belgium/Netherlands

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Vienna to Croatia
« on: June 03, 2013, 01:28:18 pm »
Easiest would be to fly, Croatian Airlines offer direct flights from Vienna to both Split & Dubrovnik. Although ticket prices aren't very affordable in this case, so might make sense to fly with change and save some money, for instance Serbian JAT airlines offer more or less good fares for flights Vienna-Belgrade-Split/Dubrovnik
If to speak about going by train, then there is not much of a choice - train from Vienna to Zagreb (discounted tickets start from 29 euro) and then another train to Split (ticket is app. 25 euro + need to add price of potential sleeper reservation). Dubrovnik doesn't have rail connection anymore, so you'll either have to take a bus from Split to Dubrnovik or bus from Zagreb to Dubrovnik
Another interesting possibility, but only for those who have time, is to take train from Vienna to Rijeka (at least one change will be required), while from Rijeka you can catch a ferry to Split and Dubrovnik, journey by sea is really nice, though takes longer than going by land

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Gorizia to Milan
« on: May 30, 2013, 05:54:42 pm »
When traveling from Gorizia to Milan you will inevitably change trains at least one (in most cases change station will be Vencie-Mestre). On leg from Gorizia to Venice there is only regional trains without compulsory seat reservation and with the same ticket price no matter when you buy, thus there is absolutely no need to buy ticket in advance. But on leg from Venice to Milan, as was already said in the other topic, you can use either similar regional train (again no need to buy ticket in advance) or opt for high-speed Frecciabianca train, here you can get discounted tickets (start from 9 euro) if you buy in advance via TrenItalia website

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Milan to Innsbruck
« on: May 30, 2013, 05:18:05 pm »
Well, last direct EuroCity train from Verona (most of trains to Austria/Germany originate from here) to Innsbruck leaves 17:02 (arr. 20:32), thus in order to catch you'll have to depart from Milan around 15. If it's not possible then you'll have to travel with two changes: Milan Centrale-Verona Porta Nuova (18:05-19:27), then Verona Porta Nuova-Brenner (19:50-22:52) and finally Brenner-Innsburck (23:04-23:44)
On TrenItalia website you can purchase even right now ticket Milan-Brenner, however all the discounted tickets for this connection (for June 15) already sold out, so only standard full fare tickets are left (=42,5 euro). Ticket Brenner-Innsbruck is 7,8 euro when purchase in Brenner (or via Austrian Railways website). On the contrary, if you ok leaving Milan earlier, then you can buy Verona-Innbruck discounted ticket for the last direct EuroCity train (17:02-20:32) for 29 euro, while Milan-Verona (for instance 15:05-16:27) will cost you either 19 euro (discounted purchased in advance) or 21,5 euro (standard full fare)

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Budapest to Milan
« on: May 30, 2013, 04:58:17 pm »
I have great difficulty in booking these train Budapest to Milan. Can you help me to actually book and buy the tickets?
There is no need to book tickets for Budapest-Zagreb-Ljubljana leg or trains within Slovenia (like Ljubljana-Jesenice-Nova Gorica), first of all because price of tickets is always the same, so it doesn't matter when you buy. Second, all those trains doesn't require seat reservation, which means that they can't be sold out. So you can simply buy all the tickets before departure and don't worry. Same thing applies to trains from Gorizia to Venice and majority of trains form Trieste to Venice.
The only part of your route for which you might want to purchase tickets in advance is Venice-Milan, here with in advance purchase via TrenItalia website you can get tickets for high-speed trains for as low as 9 euro (full fare is 37,5 euro), however for Venice to Milan you can as well use slower regional trains which cost only 18,35 euro (full fare). As result you can actually travel Budapest-Croatia-Slovenia-Milan without buying any tickets in advance

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Paris to Barcelona
« on: May 29, 2013, 11:46:19 pm »
I note also that the child ticket was more expensive than the adult ticket!
This situation usually happens only with discounted adults tickets, many of which sold cheaper than standard fare child tickets. Standard fare adult tickets can't be more expensive than child one, simply because it goes against any logic

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Is this all ready to go or do i still have to reserve seats even though i can't at present.
Yep, everything is set. On the leg from Paris to Mannheim it's just a bit different rules, there seat reservation is always "included", because it's compulsory for all the trains. While with trains from Mannheim to Munich seat reservation isn't compulsory (most passengers don't bother with it), so it goes as a sort of extra

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Train fares and tariffs / Re: Athens to Croatia
« on: May 27, 2013, 10:22:52 pm »
Do you have any rough price estimates for the following options?
a) train Athens-Kiato + Greek Railways (OSE) bus to Patras would be roughly 15 euro or something like that, ferry companies as well offer their buses to bring passengers directly from Athens to the ferry terminal in Patras, guess price is more or less the same. Then price for a ferry Patras-Bari/Ancona can be found here (it's just one of the companies), while Jadrolinija Bari-Dubrovnik prices are here, Ancona-Split would be slightly cheaper
b) bus from Athens to Tirana hardly will be more than 40 euro, then another 5 or so euro to Shkoder and another 5-10 to Ulcinj. And something like 10-12 euro Ulcinj to Kotor/Herceg Novi + 10 euro from there to Dubrovnik 
c) Athens to Thessaloniki by train (from 19 euro if purchased in advance), then Thessaloniki to Skopje by bus roughly 20 euro. Price of a ticket from Skopje to Montenegro depends on bus company and final destination, but let's say from 25 (Podgorica) to 35 euro (Kotor/Herceg Novi) + another 10 euro from there to Dubrovnik
d) well, for instance as of now on August 11 Serbian JAT Airways offer Athens-Belgrade-Dubrovnik for 180 euro with overnight stay in Belgrade, on August 12 you can get Athens-Belgrade-Tivat for 160 euro or Athens-Belgrade-Sarajevo for 160 euro on August 11 etc.

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Budapest to Milan
« on: May 27, 2013, 09:54:05 pm »
Ok, so Budapest-Deli station dep.13:25 (train #204), arr. to Zagreb 19:45, dep. Zagreb with train #498 at 21:20 (so you can actually make a small walk in Zagreb as well) and arr. to Ljubljana 23:36. Ljubljana is a small city with city center in walking distance form the main station, so arrival after 23 shouldn't be a problem. One through ticket Budapest-Zagreb-Ljubljana is 39 euro per passengers, you can buy it in Budapest anytime, no discount for ordinary youth passengers.
Then Ljubljana-Jesenice-Nova Gorica by train, few connections per day here, but in order to make it to Milan not very late better to dep.Ljubljana 9:45, with change in Jesenice 10:53-11:15 you'll arrive to Nova Gorica 13:06. Slovenian town Nova Gorica & Italian town Gorizia historically is one town (check google maps), so you can either walk from Slovenian side to Italian or take local bus (#1, goes from Slovenian train station to Italian one). From Gorizia train station you can depart 14:20 (arr. to Milan 19:25), 15:40 (arr. to Milan 20:25), 16:20 (arr. 21:25) etc. But since it will be 23.06 maybe it will make sense to stop for a night in Venice and continue to Milan next day (Goriza-Venice standard fare ticket is 11,4 to 13,65 euro depending on connection, Venice to Milan from 9 euro, if purchased in advance). Or you can spend the day elsewhere - in Ljubljana, Bled, Trieste, Verona etc.
Besides scenic rail route of Transalpina (Jesenice-Nova Gorica) you can as well travel by train from Ljubljana to Koper or Sezana and from there than take a bus to Trieste, while Trieste to Venice is 12,1 euro and two hours by regional train. Anyway, would suggest to take a look at TrenItalia website and see everything yourself, might help to determine the exact itinerary/place to spend extra day

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General Discussion / Re: Budapest
« on: May 27, 2013, 07:38:22 pm »
Well, first of all there are more or less three major train station in Budapest (Keleti - most of the international trains depart from here, Deli - trains to Croatia/Slovenia depart from here & Nyugati), so you should decide where exactly you want to stay. At the same time all the stations can be reached easily by subway, so in general it doesn't really matter where in the city center your hotel is located, at least as far as it's not far from subway, then you can be sure that you get to the any train station in less than 20-30 min.
Regarding hotel choice & hotel reviews we usually recommend (and use ourselves) hotelscombined.com, it analyses data from various hotel websites and allows you to get the best deal for less, plus it shows all the hotels on the map, so it will make you search even easier

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Travel plans, routes and timetables / Re: Budapest to Milan
« on: May 27, 2013, 07:27:32 pm »
What would be the best, most scenic route, to go from Budapest to eventually get to Milan from where our return flight is?
Generally two days in enough to travel by land from Budapest to Milan via any possible route, so you have a variety of choices. Let's take a closer look at some major ones:
a) relatively cheap way to travel will be taking daytime train from Budapest to Ljubljana via Croatia (standard one-way fare is 39 euro), then spend a night in Ljubljana and continue to Italy in the morning via Jesenice-Bled-Nova Gorica (famous Transalpina rail line or Bohinj railway). While from Gorizia it's easy and not very expensive to reach Milan with train change in Venice
b) travel via Vienna-Villach-Venice, here in order to travel cheaper would be good to buy tickets in advance, that way you can get tickets Budapest-Vienna for as low as 13 euro, while Vienna-Venice from 29 euro. Venice to Milan tickets start from 9 euro. All the above tickets fares a discounted one, so require in advance purchase & limited in number per departure
c) travel via Vienna-Salzburg-Innsbruck-Verona (famous Brenner pass). With this route you'll spend the most time in the scenic mountain regions, however it might not be the cheapest one. Again Budapest-Vienna tickets you can get for as low as 13 euro, Vienna-Innsbruck tickets start from 19 euro and Innsbruck to Verona as well from 19 euro, Verona to Milan tickets start from 9 euro. But since all of the above tickets a limited in number per departure and thus require in advance purchase, you might not get cheapest one for all the legs

On our country pages (Hungary, Croatia/Slovenia, Austria & Italy) links for all the network maps and official websites for ticket purchase. So we encourage to take a look at all the above options, decide which route might interest you and then we can already help you out with the exact schedules and see whether discounted tickets (if necessary) are still available for your dates

p.s. if requirement to go by land is not a must for you, then obviously cheapest way to reach Milan from Budapest is to fly using low-cost airlines (RyanAir or WizzAir). For your dates direct flights start from only 30 euro

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